Islamic Leftism

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Welcome to Islamic Leftism, a space for muslims leftists.

Lemmygrad rules apply:

  1. No capitalist apologia / anti-communism.
  2. No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.
  3. Be respectful. This is a safe space where all comrades should feel welcome, this includes a warning against uncritical sectarianism.
  4. No porn or sexually explicit content (even if marked NSFW).
  5. No right-deviationists (patsocs, nazbols, strasserists, duginists, etc).
  6. No class reductionism

Rules for Islamic leftism:

  1. No discrimination against other faiths or to those who lack it

  2. No uncritical judging, always look for the cause of things before doing judgement

  3. No compulsion in acceptance of the religion, if someone decides to leave or enter Islam let them for Allah is all-Knowing all-Wise and all-Forgiving

  4. No takfir ( excommunication ) against the innocent believers or other persons who don't share the same beliefs or ideas

  5. No treachery, show kindness to others even if they are mean to you

  6. Be always open to different jurisprudence or schools in Islam

  7. No discrimination against different schools or sects in the religion and outside of it. Is better to be united and in harmony

  8. Be respectful to eachother be it religious or non-religious, believer or non-believer

All of you are welcomed to join

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cross‐posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5873308

With the exceptions of alcohol (and the occasional locust), nearly everything that is kosher is also halal. It is normal for Muslims to seek kosher cuisine whenever Islamic grocers or restaurants are difficult to access. Quoting Ethan B. Katz’s The Burdens of Brotherhood: Jews and Muslims from North Africa to France, page 52:

Illustrating the potential for interaction, Muslims looking for halal meat regularly entered kosher butchers’ shops. Given that many Muslims have long considered kosher meat permissible under Islamic law, since the nineteenth century, a number of North African Muslim travelers had sought out kosher butchers when visiting Europe. In war time France, many observant Muslims naturally turned to Jewish slaughter houses for their meat.¹¹⁶

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During the 1930 celebrations of the centenary of the Algerian conquest, one Jewish observer spotted groups of visiting Muslim notables in traditional attire entering the kosher restaurants of the 9th arrondissement, drawn by both the compatibility of Jewish ritual slaughter practices with Muslim rules of halal and the familiar menu.²⁰

Indeed, the daily experience of the city was changing: Parisians out walking in certain quarters might regularly pass by a restaurant with North African or Balkan cuisine and smell the wafting scent of couscous, merguez, baklava, or other traditional “Oriental” or “Arabic” foods; see Jews or Muslims dressed in “North African” garb going about their daily lives in the city; or hear previously unfamiliar Arabic musical modes and instruments emanating from cafés, restaurants, and concert halls.

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Until halal shops became widespread in Marseille in the mid to late 1960s, many newly arrived Muslims went to kosher butcheries here and elsewhere in the city to buy their meat.¹¹³

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Not far from Cronenbourg, the Bagouchas, an Algerian Jewish family, opened the city’s first “Oriental” grocery store, with products from North Africa. “All the Muslims,” remembers Dahan, “went to this épicerie, because they found there someone who spoke Arabic, who dressed like them, who served the great sacks of spices to which they were accustomed in North Africa.” For many years before Strasbourg had halal shops, religious Muslims purchased their meat at kosher butcheries.¹³⁸

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Jews’ and Muslims’ mutual familiarity, common customs and language, and physical proximity gave way to social, economic, cultural, and even religious relations. In many North African cafés, Jews and Muslims played cards and listened to Arabic music together.¹⁶⁰ Mediterranean grocery stores regularly featured mixed Jewish and Muslim clienteles. Many Jews and Muslims lived in the same apartment building.¹⁶¹ A number of Tunisian Muslims who found their way to Belleville took jobs in the quarter working for Jewish‐owned food establishments.¹⁶²

North African Jews in Belleville often had greater resources than their Muslim counter parts and reached out to them. As an organizer for Logique, a Jewish voluntary association helping underprivileged children in Belleville, Patricia Jaïs remembers working with both Jewish and Muslim families in need. She recalls as well a Jewish friend whose father kept his neighborhood North African café open after hours each night to allow Muslims who came with no money to eat for free.¹⁶³

Community boundaries were at once porous and fixed. With fifteen kosher and twelve halal butcheries in the short stretch between the Ménilmontant and Belleville Metro stops, Jews and Muslims generally purchased ritually slaughtered meat that accorded precisely with their own, rather than each other’s comparable, traditions.¹⁶⁴

Reviving customs popular in North Africa, Jews and Muslims also exchanged foods around the Muslim holiday of Ramadan. During the fast month itself, Jewish grocers often offered fruits, vegetables, and fresh herbs that Muslims used to prepare their evening meals. On Aïd el‐Fitr, the feast that concludes the holiday, Muslims would bring pastries and grilled mutton to their Jewish neighbors. As in North Africa, these exchanges highlighted a sense of community.

By their festive, occasional nature, though, they underscored the way that many Jewish and Muslim neighbors, while speaking in the street and remaining amicable, stayed at arm’s length.¹⁶⁵ The mixing of Jews and Muslims was accepted here, but it occurred in a precise, controlled context and thus relied on understood boundaries.

Quoting Aviva A. Orenstein’s Once We Were Slaves, Now We are Free: Legal, Administrative, and Social Issues Raised by Passover Celebrations in Prison:

Interestingly, one cause of the increased cost of kosher meals in some prisons is the request by devout Muslims for kosher foods, which satisfy the Muslim requirements of halal.¹⁵⁷

[Trivia]In medieval Europe, some Christian authorities referred to Islamic dietary laws as another justification for classifying Muslims as legally ‘Jewish’. Quoting David M. Freidenreich’s Jewish Muslims: How Christians Imagined Islam as the Enemy, pages 135–6:

Bernard transformed the structure of canon law, but he did not seek to change the ways in which canonists perceived Muslims. Huguccio, Bernard’s contemporary and an equally influential canonist, did just that: perhaps in an effort to account for the Third Lateran Council’s unprecedented association of Jews and Saracens, he collapsed the legal distinction between these groups.

“Today,” he asserted in the late 1180s, “there does not seem to be any reason for saying that servitude to pagans is different from servitude to Jews, for nearly all contemporary pagans judaize: they are circumcised, they distinguish among foods, and they imitate other Jewish rituals. There ought not be any legal difference between them.”¹¹

Huguccio acknowledges that the New Testament itself instructs Christian slaves to accept the authority of their pagan masters (1 Peter 2:18). He emphasizes, however, that twelfth‐century “pagans”—that is, Muslims—are different from their predecessors because they adhere to “Jewish rituals” such as male circumcision and abstention from pork.

Just as Christians may not serve Jews, Huguccio contends, so, too, they may not serve “judaizing pagans”—that is, Muslims. Canonists, after all, regarded literal observance of Old Testament law as a defining feature of Judaism, and they would readily brand Christians who practice circumcision or distinguish among foods as judaizers; from this perspective, it follows naturally that Muslims judaize in their adherence to these practices. By extension, Huguccio seems to suggest, Muslims are as likely as Jews to corrupt the beliefs and behaviors of their Christian slaves.

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Huguccio, unlike Bernard, also forbids shared meals with Muslims on the grounds that “nearly all Saracens at the present judaize because they are circumcised and distinguish among foods in accordance with Jewish norms […] The reason for the prohibition [against Jewish food] expressed in Omnes applies equally to both groups.” According to Huguccio’s interpretation of Omnes, the sixth‐century canon forbidding shared meals with Jews discussed above, exposure to Judaism is dangerous because Christians might be tempted to adopt Old Testament practices.

By this logic, interaction with Muslims is equally fraught since they, too, observe Old Testament norms literally. Huguccio’s argument for avoiding shared meals with Jews and Saracens alike appears in the influential Ordinary Gloss to the Decretum, the mid‐thirteenth‐century commentary that regularly accompanied subsequent copies of that collection.¹²

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"What will Arab journalists say after they see Xinjiang themselves?"

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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/2436007

I don't normally like Vox.

But this was a good article, if a bit liberal.

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The only author I know of is Ali Shariati, and I have trouble finding his work. I linked his essay "Red Shiism vs. Black Shiism" as an example of what I potentially am looking for. Sorry if this is a bit if an odd request, this us my first Lemny post. Anything linked would be helpful.

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For context, I'm a USian who became interested in Islamic cultures as a young adult, and from there found something magnetic about the faith of Islam.

I have many LGBT friends, and whenever I've reached out to mosques, the answers I get are rather disappointing. The best one I've gotten still invalidates homosexual relationships. I'm cishet, but as I said I have many LGBT friends, and I'm also poly. I have a comrade who is trans and converted to Islam, and I see that many LGBT Muslims exist, but this confounds me, too. Even the most open-minded of them will say something is "what Muslims believe" and then clarifies that it is from a Hadith, not strictly from the Quran. The comrade I know is a "Quranic" Muslim - one who follows the Five Pillars and the teachings of the Quran itself, and I know the Hadith are controversial outside of the majority of Sunni Islam.

I want to be a more spiritual person, but the type of Islam I encounter promotes teachings I know in my heart to be wrong. I know, too, that many Christians, Muslims, and Jews have this odd personal combat with God, for lack of a better term - a struggle with the divine, wherein they work out various personal sins/failings or disagreements with the scripture. I know Jews that eat pork, Muslims who drink, Christians who don't pray. I sense there's a spirit to the faiths that is more important than adherence to prescriptions of the text.

I am white (part Native American, but this isn't visible in my appearance or culture). No part of my lineage comes from any land associated with Islam. It feels like appropriation for me to want to convert to a faith, but then pick and choose which parts of it I want to believe and follow. I dabble in tarot and the occult. I'm poly. I believe all consensual love is valid and sacred. So, I guess my question is aimed more towards the Muslim comrades here who are LGBT or allies, who balance the secular with the spiritual, who might be able to show me the way:

How can I call myself a Muslim without compromising my beliefs? Is there a sect or denomination I can seek guidance from? Am I just wasting my - and your - time?

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spoilerIt's the seal of Muhammed, used at the end of the letters he sent

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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3548223

“Why the US wants to separate Xinjiang from China? Because its location is too crucial for them to destabilize Eurasia. In this video, I laid out the strategic location of Xinjiang, and how CIA experts planned long ago to destabilize China by playing the "Uyghur card."”

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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/1700782

Yeah...

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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3374505

How is Life of Muslims in Xinjiang | The Xinjiang they don't want you to see | 新疆真实穆斯林生活是什么样的?| 他们不想让你看到的新疆

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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/1504698

Well, as Comrade Zelda might say:

Good.

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I've seen people supporting Saddam and I guess it could have been just a mistake or something, but it seems like such a shitty decision to make, and he also received support from the US, so I don't really know what to believe there.

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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/1035177

Check it out.

Let me know if the link works.

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I was born and raised Catholic (Western Belarusian and Irish parents) and I went through a once-a-week religious class, but never felt especially attached to Christianity. I became an atheist over time and have been going through difficulties currently and I find that I still have a faith deep down. I’m interested in Islam because I read a tiny bit of the Quran as a kid out of curiosity (during the height of Islamophobia in the US, George Bush, early Obama era) and found that it wasn’t “terrifying and inhumane” as Fox News would say on the TV set at my grandparents’ condo. What resources would you point to for a beginner/ on the fence person to learn about Islam? Thank you in advance.

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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/1009861

By Vijay Prashad.

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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/1009698

From an AP journalist guest-writer.

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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/1009299

Not the best article as it's mainly meant to appeal to liberals, as I was told recently, and convince those sitting on the fence. People's World does this from time to time as it has 2 million subscribers, at least, so the audience is much broader. Hopefully, you'll understand, though I know many will criticize this article, rightfully for certain things.

Victor Grossman was someone that defected to the GDR (or DDR) and defended the GDR/DDR as well as the wider Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact countries.

For the record, I do not believe that what happened on October 7th was reported accurately at all.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/2486849

Western media & government's pivot from constantly convincing you there are Muslims somewhere that need your help & military intervention, to suddenly providing excuses for the massacre of thousands of innocent Muslims is one of the more spectacular pieces of hypocrisy we've seen in a while. Particularly when you consider they are still today pushing flimsy stories of persecuted Muslims elsewhere, desperate for you to diver your attention away from Isr*el.

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According to official data, in February, Tunisian authorities arrested a large number of Ennahdha party leaders, including its president Rached Ghannouchi, his deputy Ali Al-Arayedh, and former Minister of Justice Noureddine Bhiri, on charges including conspiracy against state security.
Ennahdha, with the Shura Council being its highest-ranking body, was the largest party in the previous parliament that was dissolved by Tunisian President Kais Saied in July 2021.

I didn't know that b.t.w. :
In Tunisia, Habib Bourguiba ruled from the independence in 1957 until a coup by Zine El Abidine Ben Ali in 1987, who stayed in power until the tunisian "Jasmine" revolution of 2011 which eventually put Beji Caid Essebsi in power in 2014(, after banning the islamist party Ansar al-Sharia in 2013).
And since 2019 it's Kais Saied.

There's a lot of anti-islamic propaganda about islam supposedly teaching that women are subhumans, so it may be worth mentioning that :

In the 2014 Tunisian parliamentary election, Ennahda candidate Jamilia Ksiksi became Tunisia's first black female MP.

And, also :

Ennahda became the largest party in parliament in the 2019 election(, so until 2021 according to Telesur)
The Tunisian government has detained at least 17 current or former members of the party, including its head, and closed its offices around the nation since December 2022. Tunisian authorities apprehended Ghannouchi and searched his headquarters in April 2023.

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In American Muslim Poll: Amid Pandemic and Protest, the Islamophobia Index was recorded mere months before an election where the incumbent was widely seen as fomenting anti-Muslim sentiment as an electoral strategy, both with rhetoric and administration policies like the Muslim Ban. Most notable among our results is the consistent decline in Islamophobia among Jewish Americans from 22 in 2018 to 18 in 2019 to 16 in 2020.

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In the American Muslim Poll 2022: A Politics and Pandemic Status Report, for the fourth year, we measured the Islamophobia Index, a measure of the level of public endorsement of five negative stereotypes associated with Muslims in America. The general public scored 25 (on a scale of 0 to 100), on par with 27 in 2020. American Muslims scored 26 on the Islamophobia Index, higher than Jewish Americans who scored the lowest at 17.

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The situation stems from a 2009 arrest and a 2011 conviction that claimed four individuals—​all of whom are of the Islamic faith—​were plotting to use stinger missiles to shoot down military airplanes flying out of an Air National Guard base in Newburgh, New York, and blow up two synagogues in Riverdale. (New York Times, July 27)

Evidence now suggests that the FBI, along with an informant named Shahed Hussain, was responsible for the whole fiasco. Hussain is a Pakistani businessperson who had been working with the FBI prior to the sting operation. Records show that he was paid a generous salary of $100,000 by the FBI to “seek out Muslim radicals” at local mosques. (The Guardian, Dec. 12, 2011)

Hussain’s provocative rhetoric and flashy appearance raised suspicion among the Islamic clergy at Masjid al-Ikhlas, the Islamic Learning Center in Newburgh infiltrated by Hussain, where he met the four individuals who became FBI scapegoats.

Masjid Imam Salahuddin Muhammad was leery of Hussain’s reactionary and forceful demeanor from the time he first stepped foot into the Newburgh community mosque. “This guy said ‘women should not be heard, not be seen.’ I thought that was strange,” Muhammad told The Guardian. Hussain presented himself in a cartoonish manner, reinforcing negative stereotypes, and that raised suspicion among several members of the Mosque.

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