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I mean I can imagine him doing that, but wyere source?
Plenty of articles on Trump his private meetings with Putin. A short one: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/15/us/politics/trump-putin-meetings.html
The CIA circumstantially complaining and warning their agents of an increase of dead informants: https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/575384-cia-admits-to-losing-dozens-of-informants-around-the-world-nyt/
Apart from leaking, Trump also erroneously declassified secret documents, leading to the disappearance (and likely deaths) of some informants. Best case was that the western agency was able to extract their informant in time, but that still means that there is 1 less informant. Here's one case, but there were more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/17/russian-sources-disappeared-after-trump-declassified-ex-spys-evidence-uk-court-told
Trump his public obeisances towards Putin are also clearly recognizable as such. Trump Putin meetings are not meetings of equals, but one is clearly there to do the bidding of the other.
Put 1, 2, 3 and 4 together and there are many who believe that it was Trump who purposefully gave top secret information to his master. Including basically all western spy agencies, who now no longer can trust the USA with secret information. Trump is a traitor and everyone knows it.
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Haha I love the reverse psychology
what?
My bad i misread. I though you said "I can't believe that what your source". (Which was great reverse psychology) The good thing with Lemmy is you have real people, the bad thing with Lemmy, you got real people.
Being able to prove this last part beyond a reasonable doubt is the key and important part. Like the line at which you can start genuinely talking about charging him with treason.
I doubt that any evidence will ever be enough for republicans, I expect that they would just move the red line again, they know that Putin's Russia is their ally too.
I can only see evidence that is really salacious or visceral work, something like Russia's 1980s kompromat on Trump for example. Everything else would need a bit of explaining and the right wing media would then be able to muddle it.
Trump's presidency was such a travesty, that without Roger Alles successful transformation of the media landscape, no other politician could have been seen to support Trump. But since Roger Ailes media plan has been brought to fruition, republicans know that facts are now optional.
The official version of the conversation between trump and Putin doesn't include any mention of the spy list or anything sus.
Without looking into that because it doesn't really solve the issue, there are people who claim the primary source for what was said, would be a daily caller journalist. If that claim is true and the implications are up to you to figure out, as it doesn't really change anyway.
The request seems to be real while he didn't technically asked for spies. Spies aren't usually on the payroll as a spy either.
Trump himself didn't had to provide putin with the list directly anyway as marolago isn't fort Knox.
In short, a shit Tonne of what ifs and maybe, where a trump is an idiot that thought "Putin wants list of spies? I want list of spies" and stored it in a hotel, would be enough.