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Putin addresses Ukraine with Russia’s first public ceasefire proposal: Ukraine must withdraw troops from DPR, LPR, Kherson, Zaporozhye regions+notify NATO it will not move forward with alliance talks. (streamable.com)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Putin goes on to say

”Our proposal is not to freeze the conflict, like how the west wants it, but to end it. I repeat, this is not to freeze the conflict, but for its final completion.”

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So what would this mean for those four regions? Fully subsumed into Russia? Becoming an independent country but identifying as ethnically Russian? Staying Ukrainian but granted some sort of semi-autonomous status?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

iirc DPR and LPR are already part of Russia, they would need to do new paperwork on Kherson and Zapo though

EDIT: I did not recall correctly

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Kherson and Zaporozhye are already part of Russia too.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

when'd they pull the legal levers on that, I missed it

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

iirc The DPR and LPR joined Russia the same day as Kherson and Zaporozhye.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

ah ok this is the sep 30 2022 action, I was thinking of the legal moves they did before the invasion. I'll have to go back and read the MoA article to figure out what the distinction is

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

The only change mentioned is that they will have troops withdrawn, so I don't know if Putin is even looking for any territorial changes. Maybe he'll expect recognition of a plebiscite after the troops are withdrawn, maybe the territories will remain a part of Ukraine. I doubt anyone wants for them to form a nation.