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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Would be nice, but I can't see either major political party actually following through with something that hurts their power.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They did it in alaska very recently and now they can undo it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yep, as soon as it became a risk to power it got taken away. It's a treat that will always be dangled and pulled away before it can do anything major.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I meant to write they cant* undo it. They tried already but it didnt work, although there is a repeal effort that has survived some legal challeneges so it will be on the ballot in november, although i doubt it will pass

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You may know this already but, in case you don't, you can edit comments even after submitting them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I do but you had already replied and context is important if an outside reader came along

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Let me happily inform you that several states have varying versions of RCV.

Maine and Alaska got there through a Democratic government and a voter referendum, respectively.

Highly recommend reading this Wikipedia page.

You'll notice a trend of Democrats and voter referendums driving RCV, and on the other hand, Republicans fighting to reverse or delay RCV laws, and entire conservative states that have BANNED it.

This isn't a "both sides" thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I agree Dems are pushing it more right now

What I would hope is that ranked choice would give rise to more parties/policies/options - people running on actual platforms, not just a two party system. Then we could actually start to push the country more to the left, because as it is, the US government is generally centre right and getting dangerously close to far right.

What I worry about though is that the second the Democratic party in it's current state sees that they are pushing far more left than they want, they'll try to put the brakes on it again because they don't want to lose their power.

Both sides are not the same, and I'm not trying to say they are. But pretending the Democrats are a left wing or liberal party is just not true - they have been going more to the right than the left for decades.

Either way though, if we can get ranked choice all across the US, I think that would be a phenomenal start to actually being a democracy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I'm aware of the progress, I am stating that I believe it to be a carrot that will get pulled away before it can actually make major impact on who controls the government.