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[–] luciferofastora 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Your opinion is posited as an absolute: "This is useless" suggests you consider it useless in general. People arguing otherwise are challenging that general claim by providing examples where it can be useful.

They're not invalidsting your subjective perception that it's not particularly useful for your primary use case. In fact, I've seen explicit acknowledgements that your use case will require different tools. If anything, your doubling down on the assertion that it is useless invalidates those that do find it useful.

For contrast, consider the more personal phrasing "This isn't really useful to me, because I generally clip conversations and it doesn't capture my mic." This both respects that other people may find it useful and makes it clear why you don't.


Aside from the semantics, you might be able to work around the issue by customising your audio setup, which is something I don't know if Windows lets you. I don't know what exactly it captures and what audio server you use, but if it can be pointed at a specific virtual device, you might be able to loop back your audio input to that device and use a combine-stream to route your other audio both to that virtual and your actual pysical output device.

[–] Technus 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Your opinion is posited as an absolute: "This is useless"

That's not even correct. I said "not all that useful" and then "next to useless". Never "absolutely useless".

The whole point of this feature is to provide something built into Steam that works without a whole bunch of fiddling like other recording software. It currently fails at that on Linux because the implementation of it is half-assed. That is my position. End of conversation.

[–] luciferofastora 1 points 2 months ago

That's not even correct. I said "not all that useful" and then "next to useless". Never "absolutely useless".

It's a simplification to condense the core point:
People say "I like this! This is useful!"
You say "It's not all that useful"
I reply "It is to me"
You double down "next to useless"
I say "For you maybe, but for me it's very useful"

The essence is that it's not very useful to you, but it is for others. Yet you steamroll over that (subjective) take to double down on how shitty it is.

The whole point of this feature is to provide something built into Steam that works without a whole bunch of fiddling like other recording software.

It does. It's a built-in utility to record gameplay clips. That's neat.

It currently fails at that on Linux because the implementation of it is half-assed.

It's lacking one feature, yes, but I'd not call that a failure if plenty of people seem fine without it.

That is my position.

Rich, coming from "You're wrong when you say it's useful".

End of conversation.

"I'm right, you're wrong and I refuse to hear otherwise"

Alright then. I figured you were genuinely confused and thought maybe seeing the other perspective could help clear things up. Guess you'd have to actually look for that to work.