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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. Stockholders are not the problem - corporate concentration of wealth and power is the problem. Attacking me for having a 401k is just crabs-in-a-bucket mentality.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

No one is attacking you for your 401k... The problem is that the richest 10% own 93% of all stocks, and the 1% own 54%. Your 401k almost certainly falls into that 7% the peasants "own". When we point a finger at "stock holders" we're talking about the relatively small group that owns everything and would rather kill everyone than share the wealth equitably.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tbf, if that is what is meant by stockholders perhaps the specificity would do the argument good, because without it you're lumping them in with all stock holders (like those with a 401k.) I also get the notion that you may not care about the 401k but the hexbear users might, for instance, so some infighting may take place, but oh well.

At any rate by using terms that include a wider range of people than you do intend to kill (saying things like kill all landlords or kill all stockholders etc, which could include fair landlords and 7%ers or whatever unless specified), it's going to make those people who acknowledge those cases you "don't mean" defensive against being killed. Basically, we need another word that only applies to the people that you find it acceptable to kill, that excludes those who you think should live despite exhibiting similar behaviors to those marked for death, if you intend to get those people on your side.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Fair enough... Not sure what that term would be other than "oligarchs" or 1%... Although it's really more like the richest 1% of the richest 1%

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When we point a finger at “stock holders” we’re talking about

Maybe you are but there's plenty of people who are perfectly happy to attack the middle class.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Honestly that's my big fear as far as any "revolution" goes... That people won't recognize the oligarchs separate from just the richest person they know. Like, someone with a big house in your neighborhood, is almost certainly not oligarch levels of destroy society and the world, but they'll be accessable while Elon and the banksters won't be.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Have you read the text in the image?