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What do the exclamation points mean?
Yeah, I’d say Kitty and Alacritty work pretty well on Linux. Makes this comparison table seem like bs
Kitty on macos is absolutely fine too
That the guy making the table is pulling things out of their arse, basically.
Here is the review by a closed beta tester.
https://hanna.lol/p/ghost-in-the-terminal/
Here is the video where he talks about the optimization done in ghostty
https://youtu.be/cPaGkEesw20?t=3021&si=ppZK2tbGktJah9cN
They explain it a bit here: https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-and-useful-zig-patterns
So nothing wrong with Kitty on MacOS e.g., but the "feel" is not native. Personally don't care too much about that, but the author seems to do.
This smells like bullshit because it’s just based on things users do not see (processes) or do not care about (the style used for your tabs).
Yeah I agree the table is very odd, but the project looks awesome anyway. Some users may care about things using native widgets when it comes to theming and stuff, though I wouldn't even know what I'd call "native" on Linux. Is GTK native? Qt?
He seems to target GTK based on his statement:
https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-and-useful-zig-patterns
Unsure, I am using kitty with a very minimal config on MacOS and it works well. Haven’t had any bugs. Seems more like marketing to me (the image)
I assumed it shows if it offers a native UI.
https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-is-coming
It was discussed in details in his presentation (the link is in the article).
Kitty is mentioned once in the article and that’s it. Doesn’t even mention its downside and how ghostty is so much better according to them.
It’s a great project and all, but I’d love if people could stop stomping on others work just to appear better.
Mitchell's talk has some proof
https://youtu.be/cPaGkEesw20?t=3021&si=ppZK2tbGktJah9cN
Only says it’s fast on some specific benchmarks against alacrity. Not talking about why alacrity or kitty would not work on Linux/mac while ghostty does.
Sure, it’s interesting that he managed to optimize so many things. But the claims in the picture are unproven.
Does the picture/article claim alacritty or kitty would not work on Linux/mac? Where can I read that?
It's the misleading exclamation mark. If I see this picture, my impression is that kitty works only with issues on Linux
Also, what does « features » mean? Why does alacrity have none?
Agree on the misleading table. To make it worse, OP didn't include the Mitchell's article link.
Table alone does not paint the complete picture (and marking Alacritty has no features is too absurd). Alacritty lacks features but exclamation would be better suited (instead of cross).
Some of the features Alacritty does not have