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How dare you... (lemmy.world)

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[+] [email protected] -14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

She's doing better than the old white man who's been politically powerful for half a century...

The thing is we could have ran AOC and shed have pissed off exactly as many conservatives, but gotten a whole lot more moderate support and taken votes from Stein

The biggest problems with Kamala Harris are her policies

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The biggest problems with Kamala Harris are her policies

She's getting my vote in 2024, but I'm not buying the "hold your nose to save democracy" line again in 2028. This sprint to the right she's pulled in recent months better be to get in the door.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/24/us/politics/kamala-harris-progressives-democrats.html

As Vice President Kamala Harris makes a broad play to the political center, some Democrats worry that she is going too far in her bid to win over moderates who are skeptical of former President Donald J. Trump. In private — and increasingly in public as Election Day fast approaches — they say she risks chilling Democratic enthusiasm by alienating progressives and working-class voters.

Damn right she risks it.

From the same article:

She has centered her economic platform on middle-class issues like small businesses and entrepreneurship rather than raising the minimum wage, a deeply held goal of many Democrats that polls well across the board. She has taken a harder-line stance on the border than has any member of her party in a generation and has talked more prominently about owning a Glock than about combating climate change. She has not broken from President Biden on the war Israel is waging in Gaza.

Edit - wow that's a good article. It says everything that needs to be said.

“The tent is big enough for a guy who got us into a war with Iraq, and then the tent is not big enough for a Palestinian to speak for two minutes on the D.N.C. stage,” said Ms. Joshi, contrasting the endorsement of Ms. Harris by Ms. Cheney’s father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, with the Democratic Party’s decision not to invite a Palestinian American to speak at its national convention.

[–] balderdash9 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What if Donald Trump ran for president in 2028? The powers that be can keep this going since its a win-win. Vote for establishment Democrats who are leaning more right or vote for a fascist who will move the needle overnight.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What if Donald Trump ran for president in 2028?

He won't be. They can barely prop him up now. He's in worse shape than Biden, and frankly I think he was in worse shape than Biden when Biden dropped out.

I'm not convinced he'll be able to keep his body alive until 2028, if all (or even most of) the stories about how he treats it are true.

Anyhow, my sentence you are primarily responding to should have been this:

She’s getting my vote in 2024, but I’m not buying the “hold your nose to save democracy” line again in 2028 by itself.

If the net effect of a Kamala first term is to pull the party to the right (as is currently tracking) then no, I'll be one of the people getting yelled at online for refusing to give her my vote for a second term. That's an outcome she is entirely capable of avoiding.