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He says he wants to end the war. Ending support doesn't do that and I don't see how Russia winning would be beneficial to the US.
Since when does Trump care what is beneficial for the US?
What’s beneficial to himself and the U.S. seems like the only thing he cares about.
“Make America Great Again” is his motto, and the actions he took during his first term mostly aligned with it, even if the outcomes didn’t always turn out as intended. If you don’t believe he means what he says, then I don’t think he should be criticized for the rest of what he says either - since he wouldn’t mean that, either.
You actually fell hook, line and sinker into his lies, haven't you? And what is with your broken logic? Do you think people can only lie 100% of the time or never lie at all? That seems to be the basis for your argument here.
I've been accused of being both Trump and Kamala supporter today despite not even living in the U.S.
Nope, I'm just a dispassionate observer who doesn't think in binary. Trump is not all bad no more than Kamala is all good. Things are nuanced and complicated.
Also no, I don't think people either lie 100% of the time or not at all, but I also don't think you get to arbitrarily choose which is a lie and what is not based on which better fits your agenda.
Where did I accuse you of being a Trump supporter? I said you fell for his lies. Plenty of people worldwide has fallen for his lies, mostly due to the amount of misinformation spreading in social media. You're just one of them.
If people can lie and tell the truth, they can obviously be criticised for what they said, so your argument again don't make sense. We're also not choosing to believe what he said based on agenda, it's based on what people know of him and what he stands for.
You seem to be fine arbitrarily choosing to believe his slogan while ignoring his actions of attempting a coup in 2020 and calling for persecuting those that speak against him. Do you believe the latter is for the good of the US, then?
I have said what I had to say on the topic and you seem to posses such a good mind-reading capabilities that I don't think I'm needed for this discussion. I have no interest in engaging with people who result in personal attacks and accusations. Have a good debate.
I think you gotta watch more Trump interviews. He's an authoritarian. He's told people twice that they would never need to vote again once he's in office.
He said Hitler did some good things. He wants generals like Hitler had. Shit you could make a book of Trump quotes of all the awful things he's done and said.
I don't see what this has to do with what I've said. I haven't claimed otherwise. I don't even like the guy and I wouldn't have voted for him if I lived in the U.S.
I was replying to the part where you said Trump isn't all bad.
I get that you were trying to get across that not everything is black and white, but I mean...dang it's hard to find a good trait about the guy.
He's not a warmonger for one. He's pretty funny too.
EDIT: Also, though a bit synical, I must say that I find some enjoyment in how mad he makes the far left which I see as one of the main reasons we got Trump to begin with. He's the reaction to wokeism and identity politics.