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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Who’s already using this thing? I know Google ships it, but is anyone checking it yet

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's good odds that banks and streaming services are scrambling to implement it as we speak. You know they are. DRM is the perpetual wet dream for the music & film industry and for streaming services. And banks are paranoid as a matter of course.

It's going to be very hard to say no, especially since they can say "but Chrome is working on all platforms, nobody's pushing you out of anything". Will you drop stream subscriptions? Everybody loves to say they'll drop Netflix "as soon as they push me one more time", but what about a service you actually like? And what about banks, are those as easy to switch?

I've been through this for years now with Android and SafetyNet and it's a lot of hoops to have to jump through to stop being considered a second class user on your own device. It's going to suck extra bad when it comes to PC.

As for Google services themselves, I'm very curious to see in what order and how they choose to make WEI mandatory. Maybe not for Search and Gmail, at first, but what about accessing your Google Account, surely that must be secured? And YouTube of course, that's got DRM written all over it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

My way of saying “no” is going to be cancelling my subscription to whatever service implements this and then pirating and seeding as much of their content library as is feasible and will fit on my NAS.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Hope my bank likes paying people to answer my calls, because that's how I'll be interacting with them if I can't use a web page.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Will you drop stream subscriptions

Yes, I’ve got one foot out the door already. Shits too expensive, they kill all the best shows, they take down movies and stuff before I get a chance to watch them. I don’t even have Netflix, in my opinion is one of the worse streamers. I cancelled HBO a couple months ago, I only have ESPN+ and Apple TV

what about banks

If you’re not using a local bank or credit union I can’t help you, shit sucks and who is actually going to the branches anymore. Bank where old people bank.

Beyond that Google search is ass (everyone knows this) Gmail is fine but only because it’s “free”, you can easily switch to a cheap alternative. YouTube is the only compelling product Google has anymore and honestly I’ll just pay for nebula if I really care about losing it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait Nebula is actually built out? The YouTubers I listen to make it sound like it's in its early infancy.

Google search is ass

It feels incredibly weird using Bing... I don't even use it as an FU to Google, it's just somehow weirdly a better search engine right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I use kagi, all that money I saved from not paying for cable (streaming) lol

Yeah nebula rules, (practical engineering legaleagle minute physics etc) I’m procrastinating dropping Apple TV for it but I figure as soon as I do I’ll be happy I did, YouTube isn’t so good anymore either. The other good one imo is dropout tv, it’s comedy and dnd type stuff with some surprisingly big names imo

The through line is that now figuring out streaming services is cheap enough that smaller companies can do it, so buying a streaming thing from a company the creators actually work for is a better business model for both viewers and creators than YouTube or other streaming platforms

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

so buying a streaming thing from a company the creators actually work for is a better business model for both viewers and creators than YouTube or other streaming platforms

Sounds like a Uoptian paradise. I just assumed there wouldn't be enough content for it ever to be worth it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Things sure are dire when healthy competition feels utopian ;)

whether it's worth it is up to you I think, personally it's worth it to me but it's certainly possible that it's not for others, and that's ok! but the options exist, they're out there

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I was looking for the same. No one is, yet.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Logitech and multiple others are now blocking Firefox, for example.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

That's a completely unrelated issue with Logitech. Firefox is "blocked" because it doesn't support WebUSB (nor does Safari). I understand this web DRM is bad tech and we want to be morally outraged, but spreading misinformation makes the Lemmy crowd look less like activists/enthusiasts and more like chicken little.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I can log on to logitech.com from Firefox just fine?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

In what way? I was just now able to go to Logitech’s site on my Ubuntu laptop using Firefox with no discernible issues.