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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I truly think this is all his fucking up, nothing else. He was trying to take away features that probably align with the people who gave him money, but had no idea how to make it work and make money and is desperate. Desperation makes you even more stupid.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't see the conspiracy.

My assumption is the investors immediately got what they wanted. They are not stupid.

Money men don't hand over money to these front men based on promises. This isn't a Hollywood movie. There was an immediate pay off.

They got SpaceX stock.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Investors will absolutely hand over money to front men making bad, even obviously insane, promises, though. People are always more easily manipulated than they like to believe, but people who've convinced themselves they're infallible titans of industry are even more vulnerable to it. (Especially the ones who think that they see through the scam and won't be left holding the bag.)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Money men get conned so fucking often it isn’t even funny.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I didn't say it was a conspiracy. I said they gave him money after he was already fucking up by paying around 30 billion more than it was worth, firing all the people that did stuff, and generally being a bad CEO so he would do what they want. More of a typical business deal really.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Actually they may not be worth much either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYURUiOjZSw

Thunderfoot has spend a lot of time analyzing most things Musk, and SpaceX specifically does not have a market (TAM) to achieve what they claim.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So you've never heard of theranos or we work?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

the only not-on-purpose piece was him having to buy it. idiot was forced to buy twitter, and then turned it into a "lets burn down a bastion of liberal speech" amongst his friends. he knows he wont suffer in any conceivable way, the saudis who fronted a huge chunk get what they want.

this was all setup shortly after he was forced to buy it. every step he has made since is in the playbook of "ruining your business", including mistakes he has personally made before.