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[–] [email protected] 124 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This article is terrible. First off, where do they get 60% from?

They link to the wrong research. The research they link to is a survey of people who already have anxiety. If you look at the research of the actual survey of the whole sample, not just those with anxiety, (here), it says that 42% have a diagnosed mental health condition, which includes an anxiety disorder amongst other disorders like depression, ADHD, and so on.

90% of the diagnosed conditions (90% of 42%) is anxiety, which would mean the actual number for only anxiety would be 37.8%.

78% of those 42% (32.76%) have depression as well. So a lot of those people with anxiety also have depression.

So the actual title should be 38% of Gen Z have an anxiety disorder. Which is only a bit higher than the total population.

According to large population-based surveys, up to 33.7% of the population are affected by an anxiety disorder during their lifetime. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4610617/

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago

Let's also not pretend that older generations arent likely wildly under diagnosed because of stigma and lack of any resources. That means Gen Z may just have a totally normal amount of anxiety.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So the actual title should be 38% of Gen Z have an anxiety disorder. Which is only a bit higher than the total population.

According to large population-based surveys, up to 33.7% of the population are affected by an anxiety disorder during their lifetime. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4610617/

During their lifetime, so not that 33.7% of the population are affected by anxiety disorder right now. The study about Gen Z seems to be talking about the "right now" figure.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That's true. From the same study that gave the 33.7% lifetime prevalence, they have 21.3% annual prevalence (those who experienced the disorder in the 12 months before the survey.)

There was no point prevalence (right now) on the study. So maybe it would be lower?

But the study from the article with the 38% figure provides no peer reviewed research. They are a data management firm that conducted a survey.

The other stats come from actual research with stringent methodologies with a much larger sample (9000 compared to 1000 for the data firm).

I think the point is unless they had done the same survey at a population level to compare the numbers between Gen Z and the whole population, there's no way of knowing if 38% is high or not. Never mind that the article posted here says 60%, which is completely wrong.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Whilst everything else of your post is on point, the last bit is not really applicable: you can't really compare "lifetime" probability (i.e. for the age range 0 - life-expectancy) of getting something (i.e. "be affected by") with the probability of actually having something (i.e. not just be affected by it at any one point but rather being now suffering the effects from it) whilst being in a specific age range (roughly 10 - 30, a subset of the lifetime one).

It might be possible to derive the second one from the first if knowing the statistic distribution in relation to age of that disorder and the average duration of the condition, but as it stands there those 38% aren't comparable to those 33.7% as they're statistically quite different things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's not how mental health stuff works. People do not really develop anxiety in adulthood like that. You won't wake up one day and have suddenly developed a mental health disorder. Mental health disorders require both genetic predisposition and real-life experiences, but those experiences really only affect someone in that way before their brain is fully developed.