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And what happened before 1940? And what happened before 1920? And what happened...
This conflict is based on religion. There will never be one true "owner of the land" because land doesnt work like that.
It's a vibes-based thing, then? Cool
More vibes, all vibes, just vibin'.
At the end of the day this whole thing is too big and old for me and all i will contribute is dunking on antisemites and contrarians
Don't confuse criticism of the Israeli Government for anti-Semitism.
I am not. But thanks for being so worried.
But the Holocaust happened so the state of Israel is allowed to genocide others apparently
I mean the jews that fled to israel were being genocided everywhere. This all started way before the holocaust my dude. This conflict is not one to be very wisecrack about. How far back do you look for who is the baddie and whos the goodie?
Yeah they definitely were, and that's awful, all genocide is awful.
Its hard to say how far back to look, one would hope as generations continue hatreds of past injustices (if anything was done to ease/reduce/eliminate) those injustices would start to simmer down on all sides.
Unfortunately very often prejudices are passed down to the next generation which just starts the cycle all over again.
Regardless, the Holocaust was horrible no question but that doesn't then justify the government of Israel getting away with war crimes, nor does me saying that justify in any way the horrible things Hamas has done. However it is important to understand context especially in the more recent past.
Understanding how and why the Israel/Palestine conflict has simmered would lead to how and why Hamas was formed in the first place, similar to how looking at America helped formed Al Queda to overthrow the Soviet-backed government of Afghanistan
The Nakba
The Jews were not the original inhabitants of the land. That claim is solely on early Arabs. They lived, settled and thrived for 3000 years before they were driven out by Canaanites.
Not only were the Arabs the original inhabitants of the area but they also lived there the longest amount of time.