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Voting is changing the Oil to keep the engine running (lemmy.ml)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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While Education and Organizing is building the parts for a new engine the rest of the year.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is just another version of vote blue no matter who. It's just as dumb as people who only vote Republican. Trump didn't win that election, Hillary lost it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

When Democrats are normal sleazy politician evil and Republicans are straight up Saturday Morning Cartoon Evil, so there is sense in it.. Ya don't vote Democrat expecting them to fix shit, you vote Democrat to keep the Republicans from being as evil as they could be.
Yeah... I feel like Hillary was the ONE opponent Trump could actually beat... I know the DNC felt like they "owed her" the nomination, but never rig a primary if you can't rig the general. I mean even if Hillary wasn't Hillary, people are going to vote in Literally Hitler before they let a woman be in charge.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

I entirely agree with you that sometimes we have to hold our noses and vote for the lesser of two evils. On the other hand, blaming the left for Hillary's failure is both dumb, and self defeating. It's a tiny percentage of the politically engaged electorate that need to hear this message, and an even tinier percentage of those who might listen. Meanwhile, it just further alienates more people than it attracts. Anyone who persists in blaming voters is more concerned about virtue signaling than winning elections. If you want to win elections, figure out how to reach voters who have given up and checked out.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

We've been playing this game for decades where "lesser evil voting" keeps pushing both parties further right as Republicans say more of the quiet part out loud and Democrats keep clawing further to the right to "capture the moderate vote."

Voting for 10% more evil instead of 20% more evil still gets you more evil and still puts you eventually at 300%+ more evil. The best time to fucking stop it was around Reagan times, the second best time to cut it out is now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

The Democrats have been pushed Left in some ways, Obama started his career saying "Marriage is between a man and a woman" and ended with Gay Marriage being legalized