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When there are slavers to shoot, we all can have a little American pride - as a treat (media.kbin.social)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Historian Joseph Glatthaar’s statistical analysis of the 1861 volunteers in what would become the Army of Northern Virginia reveals that one in 10 owned a slave and that one in four lived with parents who were slave-owners. Both exceeded ratios in the general population, in which one in 20 owned a slave and one in five lived in a slaveholding household. “Thus,” Glatthaar notes, “volunteers in 1861 were 42 percent more likely to own slaves themselves or to live with family members who owned slaves than the general population.” In short, Confederate volunteers actually owned more slaves than the general population.

Not even getting into the fact that those who didn't own slaves often engaged in the broader practice of the (ab)use of slaves and aspired to own slaves, and were quite openly fighting to perpetuate and expand slavery.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Not even getting into the fact that those who didn't own slaves often engaged in the broader practice of the (ab)use of slaves and aspired to own slaves, and were quite openly fighting to perpetuate and expand slavery.

Slave Patrols: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_patrol

https://naacp.org/find-resources/history-explained/origins-modern-day-policing

Just letting people know what you’re taking about

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well, that's mostly a look at the modern effects of slave patrols and descendants of the practice, but yes. Slave patrols were notable in that they included mostly non-slave owning white volunteers. It really shows just how deep the rot went. Slavery wasn't 'incidental' to the Antebellum South's existence as a society, it was the Antebellum South.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

So you're saying that 9/10 did not own a slave? Sounds like an overwhelming majority to me. The quote from Glatthaar ( Here's the link, because you didn't cite it yourself ) also cherry-picks the most slave-owning army in the CSA.

Not even getting into the fact that those who didn’t own slaves often engaged in the broader practice of the (ab)use of slaves and aspired to own slaves, and were quite openly fighting to perpetuate and expand slavery.

See: victims of propaganda.

I'll copy my reply to another comment. You've seriously misinterpreted my argument, whether you know it or not.

My comment is a very, very basic application of Marxist history. The ruling class has always fought their battles through the proletariat. Nobody born in the antebellum South came into this world with a desire to own other humans or one day to be needlessly slaughtered in defense of such an institution. A lifetime of propaganda and social manipulation from the elites taught them that.

Identifying a victim of a greater injustice does not excuse the microaggressions they commit as an effect of being a victim themselves.