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[–] [email protected] 86 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

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As of April 11, there were 65 Mercedes autonomous vehicles available for sale in California, Fortune has learned through an open records request submitted to the state’s DMV. One of those has since been sold, which marks the first sale of an autonomous Mercedes in California, according to the DMV. Mercedes would not confirm sales numbers. Select Mercedes dealerships in Nevada are also offering the cars with the new technology, known as “level 3” autonomous driving.

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Drivers can activate Mercedes’s technology, called Drive Pilot, when certain conditions are met, including in heavy traffic jams, during the daytime, on spec ific California and Nevada freeways, and when the car is traveling less than 40 mph. Drivers can focus on other activities until the vehicle alerts them to resume control. The technology does not work on roads that haven’t been pre-approved by Mercedes, including on freeways in other states.

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U.S. customers can buy a yearly subscription of Drive Pilot in 2024 EQS sedans and S-Class car models for $2,500.

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Mercedes is also working on developing level 4 capabilities. The automaker’s chief technology officer Markus Schäfer expects that level 4 autonomous technology will be available to consumers by 2030, Automotive News reported.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Hmm, so only on a very small number of predetermined routes, and at very slow speeds for those roads.

Still impressive, but not as impressive as the headline makes out.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (3 children)

And definitely not worth the $2500 a year they're asking for the feature.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Chances are, If you can afford the car, then that amount is nothing to you.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Having known one, some of their customers love their feature loaded cars to brag about and feel extra special. Some will definitely pay the 2.5k gladly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Conspicuous Consumption.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If they assume full liability for any collisions while the feature is active (and it looks like they do), then I can see that being fair.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Come on, you have been able to pay the price of that Mercedes in the first place.

These 2500 are not going to hurt.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Many people use credit to buy a car out of their league.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They may do so. I have no mercy for them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Then those people might as well take an extra loan for 2500 a year. I'm not sure what the point is you're trying to make here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but it's actually level 3.

Not the Tesla "full self driving - no wait we actually lied to you, you need to be alert at all times" bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

We'll wait and see i guess

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I've seen this headline a few times and the details are laughably bad. The only reason this can be getting any press is because the headline is good clickbait. But 40 mph top speed on approved roads in 2 states only if a car is in front of you in the daytime is entirely useless. I guess it's a good first step maybe? But trying to write headlines like this is big news is sad.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago

40 mph top speed on approved roads in 2 states only if a car is in front of you in the daytime is entirely useless.

It's specifically designed to navigate traffic congestion, which happens under 30 mph. It can keep up with the lane, deal with lane changes, honk if someone backs into you, let ambulances through, things like that. Not sure why the article presents it as generic driving.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

The reason this gets attention is because it's the first level 3 sold to consumers.

The tech is hard, of course it's gonna start out with laughingly limited capabilities. But it's the first step towards more automation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's starting in California where there are a meaningful number of high earners who are spending hours per day in 4 lane bumper to bumper traffic.

Having actual autonomy during those hours is still shit. But it's a hell of a lot less shit than the tedium of the high attention requirements of sitting in traffic at a crawl.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Fucking subscription. No.