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I recently moved to California. Before i moved, people asked me "why are you moving there, its so bad?". Now that I'm here, i understand it less. The state is beautiful. There is so much to do.

I know the cost of living is high, and people think the gun control laws are ridiculous (I actually think they are reasonable, for the most part). There is a guy I work with here that says "the policies are dumb" but can't give me a solid answer on what is so bad about it.

So, what is it that California does (policy-wise) that people hate so much?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I can’t speak for the entire state, but I’ve visited San Francisco many times (never lived there). It was one of the dirtiest, most disgusting cities I’ve ever visited, and I’ve visited Mumbai. I would leave conferences after speaking to people worth hundreds of millions of dollars, to be greeted by a sea of homeless people shooting up drugs, vomiting, and shitting in the streets. I’ve witnessed multiple crimes in the short trips I’ve taken, including mugging, theft, and assault. I’ve no doubt the city once held cultural cache and beauty, but it’s hard to find now. It’s hidden under a layer of crime, trash, boarded up stores, and graffiti.

Sadly my trips to Los Angeles were not much better. I am told other Californian cities are much nicer. It’s just such a shame to see what they have allowed to happen to such once beautiful cities.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think one reason is the news portrayal like others mentioned—though this often goes two-ways—ask a native Californian what they think the South or Midwest are like and you’ll often get some crazy off base responses.

I think another big piece is that CA policies have a disproportionately large impact on everyone else’s policies (they share this characteristic with NY to some extent). CA has the 3rd largest economy in the world and therefore companies often have to adhere to CA policies in order to keep from losing an extremely significant market share. For example, CA committing to no more gas cars by X date immediately made gas vehicles an obsolete product for the manufacturers’ bottom line.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Instead of helping Britney Spears, guardianships increased without a fiduciary duty lawyer for "gravely disabled" or predicted to get worse. Homeless people need shelter, not chemical restraint.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

[If you ain't got the do re mi, boys You ain't got the do re mi Why, you better go back to beautiful Texas Oklahoma, Kansas, Georgia, Tennessee

California is a garden of Eden A paradise to live in or see But believe it or not, you won't find it so hot If you ain't got the do re mi](https://genius.com/Woody-guthrie-do-re-mi-lyrics)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

What part of CA did you move to? I moved here a few years ago and love it. The weather is great (depending on where you live of course - coast is always temperate) and I've traveled to most of the regions in the state and they all have something unique and amazing to offer.

The fact that I don't fear my personal rights getting stripped T the federal level as much is because California does so much in the way of protecting and bettering our lives here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I dislike California because their life revolves around freeways and traffic. I also dislike the aggressive homeless population. I’m in nyc and everyone takes the train/ no need to be in traffic, and while there is homelessness they don’t bother you/follow you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Everyone hates liberals. Even other liberals. California is probably the most liberal state. The cost of living is ridiculous. The transport is terrible. However, it is one of the cultural capitals of America. We have San Francisco, Hollywood, Silicon Valley. Probably some other stuff. It is also heavily non-white and has a large unhoused population. So people should hate it just not for any of the reasons people hate it for. It had the home of the KKK, cities with urban blight as bad a Detroit, and breaking bad was originally going to be set here because it is the true home of meth.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That sort of self-gratifying nonsense only works if the target is more successful than you.

Using it against a target that is less successful than you would be picking on people who can't defend themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Antennas

You're selling sexism
You're selling racism
You're selling anything you get your fucking hands on
An understanding, you got a plan in a
Presentation to advertisers who demand it
When you plan that
Your antennas are pointed in the right direction
You make a deal in any situation
So with no evacuation
Let California fall into the fucking ocean
Oh they talk to ya, oh your the town man
High profile Hollywood scum-bag
It's a done deal, signed and sealed
Deal makers making it all happen
When you plan that
Your antennas are pointed in the right direction
You make a dead in any situation
So with no evacuation
Let California fall into the fucking ocean
Let California fall into the fucking ocean!
Let California fall into the fucking ocean!
Let California fall into the fucking ocean!!!

-Tim Armstrong/Rancid

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