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a pro-Donald Trump chant broke out during a fire department ceremony last week
Donald Trump was on TV bragging about "owning the tallest building in downtown Manhattan now" while 343 of your colleagues were lying dead under the rubble of the twin towers on the morning of 9/11. He does not give a single shit about any of you.
I doubt most of those ones chanting were even there or were more than children when this all happened. They never got to feel the pain, but they've enjoyed the hero worship that NY put on firefighters after 9/11.
Firefighters are some of the biggest assholes I've ever met.
I don't know.. Most firefighters I've met were decent. And you don't hear many songs titled "fuck the fire department".
There's no pattern of firefighters getting away with shooting anyone. Hell, even with the police having that pattern, it took a long-ass time for them to lose their "hero" status.
Far as I know it's just the one song by Vincent E.L. And it's, uh, not serious. But kinda fun.
Fuck the fire department
Dropping by unannounced just to fry your apartment
If they can't find a fire they’re like "Why don't we start them?"
I'm tired of arson
Fuck the fire departmentI cry out in bargaining, eyes to the garden
Begging release from the fire department
I might get a pardon if I do what they ask of me
Act passively
And don't do anything drasticallyClap at their pageantry, bow and scrape
Say it's sour grapes from people out of shape
You're here for our sake
And we're grateful for all you do
You're still gonna burn my house down, aren't you?I'm out of house, home, and every single possession
Out of the frying pan and into depression
Escaped physical aggression
Into fiscal oppression
Still don't know what they meant by
"Let this be a lesson!"We're living in an infernocracy
Things are not how we
Think they ought to be
It's a mockery but I ain't laughing
My world's on fire and I'm dying gasping
Better than the police by a long shot in my experience.
I would disagree, cops are another story
Why are you booing her, she’s right.
She committed heresy against their god.
I'm amazed they aren't throwing stones.
I suppose it just goes to show you don't really need to have a lot going on upstairs to be a firefighter. Anyone who still supports Trump at this point needs examining for lead poisoning
The uninformed and stupid and then there's mind numbingly idiotic
Insinuating that an individual's turn to trumpism/fascism is due to lead or stupidity completely disregards the decades of regulatory capture, dismantling of social safety nets, financial strain, alienation, and liberal capitalism that ultimately promotes fascism.
If you don't abandon this mode of thinking quickly, you're going to find yourself more and more confused as more people start turning fascist. The only explanation via your current framework is "well, I guess these millions of people must just be.... dumb". This is the danger of liberal thinking - it doesn't address the cause of fascism or how to kill it. If your framework were correct, we'd see volumes of work that show how lower IQ directly correlates with fascistic tendencies: obviously we know that idea is not only ableist but also incorrect.
The marxist critique actually takes into account the economic systems and structures that lead to fascism.
We do see that. Education level is a good predictor of voting intention the higher the education level the greater the chance you are going to vote liberal. This isn't just a thing in the United States this is the thing across the world.
The right prey on fear of the different fear of something that you don't understand and there's a lot more you don't understand if you're not well educated.
No, we don't see "that". You won't be able to find me any science that shows a direct correlation between intelligence and fascistic tendencies. I think you are blurring the line between intelligence and education. Think back to the german liberal universities that, once the nazis started infiltrating, folded faster than superman doing laundry.
Strengthening education as a means to minimize fascism is not at all incompatible with the marxist viewpoint. It meshes extremely well, in fact.
It's really hard to not think of people who consistently vote against their own best interests as not dumb. Democrats aren't the pro-Union, pro-blue-collar champions they used to be, but they're a damned sight better than the "trickle-down" Republicans. And Democrats have long foreseen the demise of the coal industry and other low-wage industries in the US, and while they haven't consistently found good solutions to the issues, they've done more than ignore the problem and pretend it doesn't exist.
The Republican party have been lying rat-fucks since Reagan who dissemble and displaced the blame for blue-collar woes, which lets them come up with "solutions" that only line the pockets of special interests. And, again: yes, the Democratic party has had it's share of weasels, failures, and terrible messaging, but comparing the two parties is like saying chocolate and shit are both brown and are therefore equivalent. And you do have to be a special kind of stupid to not see that.
That said, your point about making that the message ("Trumpers are stoopid") is on point; it does not help the left. But god damn it, it's true and it's also OK to recognize that.
Edit: correcting autocorrect
That's great, we've got terrorists who are paid to put out fires. Really great.
Trump loves the poorly educated for a reason
Don't fret. Fear not the terrorist firefighters. We have terrorists at every level and in every position of our social fabric. I'm sure that's going to work out well for everyone.
NY firefighters, like cops have been hailed as golden heroes since 9/11 and it really went to their head. Most of these guys weren't even there, but they act like the city needs to suck their dick constantly.
Hopefully they will be arrested very soon. The whole institution is corrupt and needs to be defunded.
Will they refuse to help if you have a rainbow flag next?
These are the people trying to take away healthcare from the heroes of 9/11
This reminds me of my union brothers at work, who continue to vote for anti union conservative politicians. It's infuriating.
That's the epitome of "got mine, fuck you"
The white firefighters, right?
Probably coincidence.
New York tryin real damn hard to ruin the universally positive opinion people have for firefighters.
Your boos don't bother me; I've seen what makes you cheer.
Tish James 4 prez