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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I recently was in the BMW museum and they actually had a whole section dedicated to their Nazi past and how they want to never do that again. Do with that what you will but at least they're not shoving it under the carpet.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Every single business in existence will sell out any value they say they hold for profit.

If they don’t another business will, welcome to capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TBF, Disney is not buckling under pressure from the Florida Nazi governor.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Disney don’t give a fuck about LBGTQIA+.

There’s just more profit in performative concern for that community.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Just curious, what did they do?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's important not to forget the past. If America treated slavery the same way we'd be a lot further socially.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Back when I worked at IBM, there were a bunch of flags hanging in the cafeteria that represented every country where IBM did business. We often wondered, why wasn't there a Nazi Germany flag? After all, IBM did sell a ton of machines to the Nazis to keep track of Jews and other undesirables, in order to commit genocide. I wonder why IBM wouldn't want people to know about that? /s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_World_War_II

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Eyebrow, meet ceiling

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"In February 2001, an Alien Tort Claims Act claim was filed in U.S. federal court on behalf of concentration camp survivors against IBM. The suit accused IBM of allegedly providing the punched card technology that facilitated the Holocaust, and for covering up German IBM subsidiary Dehomag's activities."

Sadly, a majority of the lawsuits brought up against IBM in connection with it's dark past get dropped.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doing business with Nazis because it's profitable. Nazis died, BMW regrets.

Doing business with fossil fuel because it's profitable. Earth dies, BMW regrets.

I see a pattern here

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Hmmm... Maybe we shouldn't prioritize profits over all else?

Nah, nvm. That can't be right.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah they literally used extermination camp force labour, that much we know without doubt so they're still very complicit. Tried to research whether BMW ever actually made gas vans, but couldn't find a definitive confirmation or good evidence to the contrary from a reputable source, so gonna say they might have.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fun fact: The grandmother of the current BMW owner Gabriele Quandt was literally Magda Goebbels. No, seriously.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i think that pun’s older than the internet

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I imagine two soldiers in the trenches and one just says that when something unexpected happens and the other just smacks him in the back of the head.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Can we leave that unfunny overdone joke on reddit?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can we leave the judgmental and overly controlling posts there?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Unlikely, those predate historical record.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That pun was not created by anyone on Reddit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

All dad jokes have been banned until father notice

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Other than the giant swastika, does it bother anyone else that the kerning is uneven? The B is farther away from the M than the M is from the W.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Well it didn't

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Other than that, how was the kerning, Mrs. Lincoln?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yikes, I also looked into the background of Ferdinand Porsche, and man, he was a real Nazi summabitch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Porsche employed nazis even after the war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim_Peiper

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Not a good look ehh?

Is that even legal to post in Germany?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I mean, the famous Bf-109 fighters had BMW engines.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So lets stop to consider, regardless of that nazi memorabilia.

You live under a fascist dictatorial regime. There are very few options available for you to live a relatively uneventful life.

Either you're an open, true, supporter, a passive one or a dissimulated dicident. Yes, there are more options available, but lets take these as the most broad categories.

Now let us consider that your regime an enacted several acts of domestic, unprovoked violence, internal purges and other assorted brutal and unpredictable actions against social peace and stability, in order to cement its unquestionable power over an entire nation.

Then, that same regime advances to a state of war, where all resources and infrastructure are comandeered to bolster the military.

At some point, companies are put a very simple option: either they cooperate and remain active or they refuse and suffer the consequences, that at best can be simple nationalization and purge of the heads.

Considering all of this, BMW supporting Germany's war effort is understanble.

Do I agree with that decision? No. But do I understand it? Yes.

Cooperate and live or refuse and die? Not an hard choice, especially if a lot of money is put on the table.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

cool nazi apologia

thats a lot of words for "companies dont care about anything except money"

we get it, they followed what the country's trends did regardless of the cost

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

To be fair, while everyone likes to think they'd be resisting nazi rule, most people, including you, would have most likely fallen in line and at least pretended to be pro-nazi.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thousands might be being murdered a day in death camps but at least the shareholders are happy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You mean like Nike in Bangladesh, but without the wire fences and just through the use of police enforced and government backed brutality, when the workers tried to rally for better work conditions?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

If we don’t hold corporations accountable for these types of things, they’ll be more likely to go along with it next time. All of the corporations that helped the Nazis should have been dissolved, had their assets liquidated, and used to pay reparations.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For a moment I thought you were talking about the USA.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Heerily similar, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Heerily

Can't tell if that typo was intentional or not...

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
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