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After rarbg went down, I got into a private torrent site. They expect everyone to maintain a certain ratio, which is reasonable, but there is actually no way to build ratio. The seed-to-download ratio is ridiculously high for all of the popular torrents, and new users aren't allowed to post their own torrents. (As a sidebar, normies seem to run the Internet now, so all of the most recent torrent offerings are bad network TV shows, Marvel movies, or equally unwatchable fare).

When I was on Demonoid during its heyday ~20ish years ago, the standard way to build ratio was to offer something for download that nobody has, allowing your ratio to grow by uploading to the first few initial seeders.

This is not possible anymore, at least on this private site. Is this normal, or is this private torrent site just stupid?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Usually there'll be freeleech files or freeleech days etc. This alows you to download without affecting your ratio.

Download a heap of freeleech content ans seed it 24/7. I was on a porn tracker and downloaded a few 20gb site-rips on freeleech. If 5 people download the full site off me, that's 100gb of ratio.

Try download some big files that you'll be one of the few seeds of after a while. If you only download content with 2000 seeders then you'll never get a good ratio, but if you can download some full TV series on freeleech then people will occaisionally want to watch the show and you can seed it to them

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the way, grab the freeleeches and seed. Back when I was building ratio I would do this on a Seedbox, now a days I do it myself as my bandwidth has greatly improved

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Typically, ratio private trackers have bonus point systems that you can exchange for free leeches or upload data. Read the rules for bonus points. You can maximize your points by being smart with your downloads. Downloading small torrents that are old, free leech huge torrents, torrents dying, etc. Depends on the tracker.

If they don't have bonus points, trackers also offer free leeches..that you need to snatch asap..if you download those everything you upload goes to your buffer.

I've been in many trackers and made TBs of upload data without having a seed box or uploading new torrents. It's just a little patience and then you'll be able to download whatever.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just a question: why private trackers? Do you need any specific content that you can’t find anywhere else?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  1. Yes
  2. I don't have high hopes for public trackers in the future
  3. I don't need to use VPN, can port forward
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Private trackers you won't have to worry about fake torrents / malware / letters from your ISP telling you stealing is bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

on my private tracker you get points for just always seeding, you can turn those points in for ratios boosts at a pretty good rate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Does the tracker have any freeleech torrents? What tracker is this?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Seeding, but not uploading earns bonus points. Bonus points buy upload credit, so all you need to do to is not delete the torrent from your client and you’ll earn BP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's frustrating. I'm on an invite-only MMA tracker, and it's pretty much impossible to maintain ratio because instead of just uploading a 480 / 720 / 1080 for each event, we end up with 20 different uploads as everyone tries to get as much seeding themselves as possible.

The result of that is, without becoming an uploader your ratio just drops and drops. Which of course further incentivises fracturing of a single source into 20 pointless reuploads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's all on the public sites anyway. Just use 1337x or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

torrentleech.org lets you stop seeding after 10 days regardless of the torrent's ratio. They just closed open sign ups though...

Regardless, the struggle is real on private trackers if your upload speed sucks super bad like me. It's maybe 1/100th as fast as my download speeds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you want to build up your ratio, you should try part seeding or outside seeding.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Outside seeding might work. Basically, download the same release from another site, then seed as if I downloaded it from my private tracker, right?

Still, it would have to be something popular, and all of those torrents have a gazillion seeders (and zero downloaders) already. But I suppose after enough time... sigh.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'd tread careful with that one. Depending on the tracker it could get you banned. And being banned with one private tracker can get you banned on multiple

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Back in the what.cd days I got started by just buying albums on the bounty page.

The quickest way is to get a seedbox and write a script to download new releases from the tracker. I built up a few TB of upload credit when Game of Thrones was at its peak by downloading episode torrents minutes after they were released.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are softwares which can fake seeding to raise your ratio.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That will get you banned.