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[–] [email protected] 114 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you see someone shoplifting, remember it isn't your job to deal with it, stores pay security for that. getting involved is providing free labor to the company, and they get enough of that through wage theft.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I use to work at a grocery store and for every food item that was stolen, dozens more of the same product was thrown out for being past expiration. Like many companies they want the shelves to be full at all times, which means they over produce and order product. Nothing was recycled or donated, just straight into the trash. If I ever saw anyone stealing while I was working, I just saw it as less work I has to do with taking count and throwing out food later. Plus someone actually got to eat it!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Similarly- my daughter's last science unit (for some reason) had a big thing about how you shouldn't waste food to help the environment. And I'm fine with telling kids not to waste food to help the environment. But maybe it should also mention that McDonald's throws out every perfectly edible burger that's sat under a heat lamp too long and maybe that should be a bigger concern if we're talking about food waste and the environment.

Even at the middle school level, they're blaming the individual when the corporation is so much worse.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Nothing was recycled or donated

How come they never donate? Seems like a no no brainer and it would help out.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My guess is they don't want to be responsible for lawsuits if someone eats food they had to throw out and it causes a problem. (past expiration date, damage, ect.) Then again I am not a multi-billion dollar business executive so the reason could very well be "fuck the poors" for all I know.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are literally laws that say you can donate with no liability. It's a common misconception that is too pervasive even in those who are in charge.

In fact, the ones who do realize they can do it with no liability have calculated the costs of throwing away(trash removal is subsidized) vs creating an entirely new process for donating food and worry about its handling(vs. The very lax and rough handling trash gets). Not to mention that they will have to move it to a separate location as it can bring unwanted traffic that is not profitable.

Donating is not an easy task. It's a burden, and there isn't a public service to make it easier and similar in cost to trash removal services. It's not the company's fault. It's the government and charities that are not getting involved.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

This will reduce demand, which will lead to reduced prices and hurt earnings. Capitalism requires lack, including food.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago (13 children)

None of these companies are worried about me when they jack their prices up while people are struggling. I don't know why I would ever give a shit about them. I'm just here to buy moisturizer and stay in my lane.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Here is some of the Loblaws grocery store markup that was leaked.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The figures in the screenshot are too small to see clearly; not wanting to be "that guy" who just says so and buggers off, I found an article that has the full-size copy of each page: https://thedeepdive.ca/selling-butter-at-54-profit-leaked-docs-show-loblaws-exorbitant-markups/

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (6 children)

If I saw someone shoplifting anything I wouldn’t lol none my business

[–] [email protected] 58 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'll start caring about shoplifting as soon as it becomes remotely the same magnitude of a problem as wage theft.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Only time I'll say something is a mom and pop store. Then the thief is being shitty. Go steal from a Walmart, not here.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

The right answer. You never know what people have on them. I personally don't want to get shot or stabbed. Corporations have insurance, AND make enough profit for me to care.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 7 months ago (17 children)

What?

I've watched people shoplift food several times, and they weren't poor people just looking to eat. I watched someone run out of a M&S store and into an awaiting car with a huge bag full of meat around Christmas time, probably several hundred pounds worth.

If someone was stealing a loaf of bread or something for themselves, I didn't see a thing, but let's not pretend that people aren't stealing to make some money. Lots of people steal stuff to resell, or because they're just dicks...

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (3 children)

let’s not pretend that people aren’t stealing to make some money

When you rob one grocery store of a 10 lb brisket, its called shoplifting.

But when you rob every grocery store of 10% of their net revenue, its called paying your shareholders a dividend.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (13 children)

Don't really care about some corporations losing out on their margins after nickel and diming everyone as high as they possibly can. Especially if the end result is someone or multiple people eating.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (11 children)

but let’s not pretend that people aren’t stealing to make some money.

Perhaps it's safe to say they're poor. Poor people often don't have enough money. Still sounds like a job of desperation.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Unless you live where I do, where people steal mass amounts of junk food from convenience stores and then resell it at the nighttime markets to our struggling, marginalized, population of unhoused folks at an exploitative mark-up.

Because that is actively harming me, and the community I live in.

Though even with all that, confronting or reporting them isn't helpful. But if asked, and I saw it, I would say so.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Hey, this is a thread about supporting shoplifters not price gougers.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Here it's often junkies stealing expensive meats and cheese to sell. I probably wouldn't say anything but I don't really give a shit if they get caught either.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago (27 children)

I'm not in a position to tell if someone can afford to eat. They might look like they're employed or be dressed expensively, but people can fall on hard times suddenly

So I'm not going to report anyone for anything except crimes against individuals

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago (8 children)

devils advocate: what if that person stealing a sandwich turned out to be convicted murderer Robert Durst

On November 30, Durst was caught inside a Wegmans supermarket in BethlehemPennsylvania, after trying to shoplift Band-Aids, a newspaper, and a chicken salad sandwich, despite having $500 in cash in his pocket.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Ok, if you see Robert Durst stealing a sandwich, report him immediately. Otherwise, don't.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

I am less inclined to confront an actual murderer. So my answer is nope and noper.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Then I sure as fuck don't want to risk a confrontation with a murderer over a supermarket sandwich

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If they're shoplifting, I'm shoplifting.

Its only fair.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Nobody disagrees.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (14 children)

Shit if they're stealing a TV from major corporate retailer that has pushed out all the local competition: I didn't see that shit, either.

Oh and people who need baby formula from Walmart: The locks used on those cabinets use a universal key. Obtain one and even if they lock up the baby formula, you can still get it. Even if you intend to pay, it's a time saver if your Walmart is like mine and nobody ever shows up to assist you at the locked cabinets.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Not my circus, not my problem.

Stock shrinkage is expected and baked into the markup you are paying.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yep not my circus not my monkeys

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (5 children)

If you see someone shoplifting ~~food~~ anything, no you didn't.

FTFY.

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