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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As they mention in the article they anticipated a much slower collapse and likely prepared for that. But at the rate it’s currently going, it’s quite astounding. The fragmentation and internal strife in Russia are certainly not over.

I did read one article that made a reference to this more being an “end of the beginning” rather than the “beginning of the end”. Which I agree with. It hasn’t collapsed the federation overnight, but it’s certainly weakened it a hell of a lot.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Living in Russia, I have mixed feelings about this slow controlled collapse TBF.

For Russia itself, maybe things being over after a couple of months (or years) of civil war starting in 1999 would be better.

But for everybody else, of course, there are bigger risks associated with that. Not really something nuclear even, just economically less pleasant.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Are you in Russia right now? How are things over there?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I really hate reportage like this. Every government, even seemingly incompetent ones like the current crop in the UK, have hundreds or thousands of contingency plans for things of wildly varying likelihood. This is just one of those things.

This is just as informative as those articles that say eating sugar triggers the same receptors as cocaine. Yes it's true, but there aren't that many reward mechanisms in the brain, so a lot of shit hits those same receptors.

It's data and it's true, but it's not useful information.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have a plan to invade literally every country and for if that country invades us that is updated regularly. I always found that kind of funny but it isn't shocking.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Why would it be funny?

Having a plan for an unlikely event is not funny if having such a plan is your job. There are plenty of people who should do exactly that.

Because not having a plan for an unlikely event that bloody happens is, eh, negatively funny.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's like saying the police is preparing for thieves robbing the bank or the fire department preparing for a wildfire. It's part of their job and it would be stranger not to have a contingency plan.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

In their place i would rather prepare for scenario of unexpected collapse of United Kingdom.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, it's not exactly an unexpected scenario.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I would even say, desired.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuck, this is reddit people :-D

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who says they have not prepared for that?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Considering their preparations for other things, like brexit or covid i would say LOL.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

UK politicians never really seem prepared for anything tbh

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very unlikely scenario. Expected collapse on the other hand...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, collapse of Russia is something very much expected in Russia by many people since 1993.

What makes it less expected is that it hasn't happened in 30 years, though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was made into a film called Children of Men.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The anticipatory poop challenge part deux.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you're preparing for it, is it really that "unexpected"...?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

You can be prepared for all kinds of things you aren't expecting. For example you could get occupational disablement insurance while not expecting to ever use it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Maybe they're preparing for it so it won't be unexpected

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Pravda really fell off

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

My grandpa was Ukrainian but considered himself Russian and worshipped Putin. I really wonder how this would have affected him. I honestly am partly glad he isn't alive. It would really shake him.

He thought of Putin as the person who saved Russians from the fall of the USSR. Putin has done a lot lately to undermine the untarnishable image he had with certain kinds of people.

I really miss my grandpa now. He introduced me to a lot of new concepts and though his ideas were wrong they weren't out dated or stupid.

I never would have done the things I've done if not for my grandpa and how his ideas shaped me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Plan for a possible possible eventuality? That'll be a first.

I assume there was a plan that Cameron got rid of because reasons and now they can't find the PDF so they'll have to do it again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Someone couldn't rotate it so they just deleted it and pretended it never came.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Regardless of the article, using the term "unexpected" is kind of naive at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Am I missing something or did nothing in the article match the title?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I thought it was; maybe the link you got was to the front page, or something? The article was mostly about how Prigozhin's attempted coup (or whatever it was) surprised Western leaders, and a bunch of speculation about how the West is scrambling to prepare contingemcy plans. So the one I read seemed to match.

However, I think it was a fluff article, with little substance. Prigozhin has been agitating for weeks, and I seriously doubt MI6 (or the CIA) was surprised by his actions. Or that nobody has a contingency plan for chaos in Russia. Putin's a dictator, and when dictators die, it's rarely a peaceful transition of power.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

"Some people in UK government maybe consider thinking about doing something because something happened". Much better title.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's Pravda, literally the propaganda arm of the Ukrainian Government.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I sincerely do not understand why...

Maybe it's your attitude and insulting manner? None of your arguments required your comments about "liberals". Given those, it's disingenuous to attribute the downvotes to your "facts".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Aw shit here we go again

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know mexico is really worried....so they drink tequila and move on.

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