this post was submitted on 04 May 2024
315 points (97.6% liked)

News

23367 readers
3108 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Former President Donald Trump hit the jackpot this spring when his social media company finally went public.

Even though Trump Media & Technology Group DJT generates very little revenue, investors are assigning an eye-popping valuation north of $9 billion to the company. Trump’s dominant stake in Trump Media is now valued at nearly $6 billion.

Yet new data shows its main product — the conservative-friendly social network Truth Social — remains a very tiny player in its industry, and it’s getting even smaller.

Truth Social’s average number of daily active US users on iOS and Android dropped by 19% year over year in April to about 113,000, according to data shared exclusively with CNN from Similarweb, a data intelligence company.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 87 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Almost $80,000 per daily user?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They do have a unique level of access to a userbase that will believe absolutely anything you tell them.

“Here’s a piece of paper that says you own gold. That will be $2,000.”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

“Here’s a piece of paper that says you own gold."

Bank notes?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Geoffrey dollars

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Imagine if Facebook or Google tried to sell investors on that sort of nonsense...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Facebook would be worth what disguy_ovahea says below, I'm bad at math

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

Facebook has 2.9B users. That would be $232T or $232,000,000,000,000.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

That’s not divisible by 80,000.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But you have to understand that this is the crème of the crème of society.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Only the best people

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

And it is just a fork of Mastodon. Wall Street is fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Truth Social’s average number of daily active US users on iOS and Android dropped by 19% year over year in April to about 113,000,

Lordy that number is embarrassing, when comparing to Mastodon's MAU count over 847k.

And people actually paid money for this shit penny-stock.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (1 children)

lemmy is slowly catching up at 46k monthly active users, according to this: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

New Lemmings, we salute you!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

While I don't disagree that Truth Social is wildly overvalued and compares poorly to many other social media networks, daily average users and monthly average users are two different metrics. You can't directly compare them; daily average users will be a number smaller than monthly average users for a given network.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

You are comparing a daily active users figure to a monthly active users figure. Truth Social has closer to 2 million active users overall, but only 100,000 on a given day. It’s still really low for a social media company with such a popular public figure at the forefront, but it isn’t lower than Mastodon. The valuation is absolutely absurd regardless as there are so many red flags in their own SEC filings.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Add to it that Truth Social is actually running on Mastodon software.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why is it valued so high to investors if the company makes almost no revenue? 9 billion ? What the fuck?

[–] [email protected] 83 points 6 months ago

Money laundering

[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Let's say you're an organization (or foreign actor) who wants to get as many no-strings-attached dollars into Trump's hands as possible. You can't do that through campaign donations because those are watched way too closely. You can't just cut him a check, because that looks suspicious too. What you can do however is buy stock in the company he mostly owns, and inflate the stock price as much as you want.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago

Which explains why it was standard procedure for presidents to put their money in a blind trust. And why Trump didn't.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

That is one hell of a theory. Not sure how you would even stop it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

You can stop it by enforcing the Emoulents Clause, and forcing Presidents to disclose all of their finances, and prove they are not taking money from any Foreign government. But Conservatives are very selective about which parts of the Constitution are worth upholding.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I really really hope a journalist somewhere is investigating the individuals and shell companies that purchase Truth Social stock, because I would bet that this is happening.

Russia in particular would find it useful because even if it's done with plausible deniability, it's another secret that, upon being revealed, would cause major problems for Trump. That is enough to function as leverage.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How many of those 113,000 are just reporters waiting for Drumph's next manufactured controversy to report on? Can they please just stop regurgitating every stupid thing he spouts?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Yeah also why the hell do they show up at the courthouse every single day after the trial and let him spew his lies? They don't do that for other people on trial they just report what happened. Why does he get to make it a campaign speech?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I commented on a Reddit post that rddt is worth less than djt currently. I hypothesized that awful moderation was worse than no moderation.

Mod banned me lol.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Well, you were technically wrong, there are more shares of RDDT than DJT, so even though RDDT is cheaper per-share than DJT after yesterday's close,, RDDT's total market cap is about $1B higher.

Still no reason for a ban. Now that RDDT is publically traded and has a much higher profile, I wonder if some enterprising lawyer can figure out a class action lawsuit against Reddit for all the people who were banned from the site for bullshit reasons. You'd probably have to prove some actual harm, though. Most Reddit bans only hurt your pride.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Didn't his auditor just get blacklisted for life?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Got to hand it to this guy. He pulled billions of dollars out of a hat. And just when things were starting to look pretty bad.

Now he can basically afford to pay his way out of any penalty. Must be nice to be able to do that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

He was bailed out, again.

He was already bankrupt before running for presidency and Russia bailed him out.

Now he is being bailed out by China.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Running out of money to pay for bots

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Where were all of those 71 million voters? Was 113k all that they could get of them?

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why would they stay on it when they can go back to Twitter now?

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is truth social bigger than lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Probably, to be honest. Though of course that doesn't speak to the quality of its content.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›