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[–] [email protected] 224 points 6 months ago (36 children)

Ah yes, the historically marginalized vulnerable community, the cisgenders. How can a community even hope to live in peace with only 98.5% of the population?

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[–] [email protected] 172 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (19 children)

You believe that cis is a slur because that's how you use the word trans.

These people are so fragile. If you dare remind them that they're cisgender, that they're straight, that they're white, that they're able-bodied, they take it personally because to them, they're just normal.

All of the sudden, they have to think about their place in society and it absolutely terrifies them. They are like rich people when you tell them that they're rich. They will do this whole fucking song and dance to try and tell you about how they are not that rich and how the government taxes them and everything and how they're just like you and so on.

They are not white, they are not cis, they are not straight, they are not able-bodied, no, they are just normal. It's everyone else that is different. It's them who are black, who are gay, who are trans, who are disabled. They're different.

But my guy, you are not. You are as much a part of the society as I am. And you're getting just a small taste of what it's like to be a minority in said society. Someone reminded you of what you are for just a second. Now, imagine being constantly brought back to what you are and not who you are. What that would be like.

People like Elon Musk take offense to being called straight, white, cis or able-bodied because everything else is inferior to them.

On a side note: Someone should remind him of what the Nazis did to disabled people. Because the dude is clearly getting cozy with a lot of them, but I don't think being this level of clinically stupid is going to get him far in the Fourth Reich. Besides, those South African origins... erh, that may get him in trouble. And having a trans daughter? Woof, doesn't sound like "good genes" to me. Elon, you may want to pick better friends.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago (14 children)

This might be top five comment on Lemmy that I’ve seen.

I appreciate what you put down here. I’m a white dude that is about as corn fed looking as they come. This comment made so much sense.

Thank you for taking the time to write this out.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Funny, I think the same about X.

X.Org should be pissed.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I was really thinking they were going to challenge Musk since it’s not only their name, but he chose practically the same logo.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Look at all this free speech absolutism

[–] [email protected] 63 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Now that it's considered it a slur, we can expect huge increase in its use on the platform, right?

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Will bipedal be listed as a slur too? What about multicellular? Or mammal?

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Don't the fans of X applaud it for being anti-censorship? I would think this goes against their free speech inclinations.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Free speech for right wingers means they get to say anything they want. Doesn't apply to others

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The most critical component of "free speech" to a right-winger isn't just the ability to say whatever they want with no repercussions, it's also that an audience has to be forced to listen to them.

There are plenty of shithole places on the Internet where they can spout their transphobic, Great Replacement anti-Semitic shit all day long, but that's not good enough for them. They need a "lib" to be triggered.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is what happens when a Nazi affiliated "free-speech" absolutist buys a major media. The trap of the tolerating the intolerant is very real.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Ok so what is their preferred term?

[–] [email protected] 83 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

"Real man/woman" or something inherently derogatory towards everyone else like that.

These bigots consider their own gender (and usually race and political affiliation, for that matter) the default and everything else a misguided if not dangerous aberration.

They're like the the people Musk grew up with in apartheid South Africa in that respect.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 months ago

Guys Im starting to think the guy who's only rich because daddy used apartheid slave labor may not have the best views on race

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He really hates his trans daughter!

[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 months ago (4 children)

She hates him more. When she changed her name, she changed her surname to her mother's and had it put into the court record that she disowns her father. She could have just broken contact, waited for him to die and hoped she was included in the will, but he was such an awful father that she said, "fuck you and your billions of dollars." Can you imagine how exceptionally bad a parent that would make him?

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Has anyone ever been fired from a job for being cis? [I’ve been fired from a couple for being trans….]

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I wasn't aware of this term, but I just checked it in wiktionary. Looks like a perfect normal word to me.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago

It is, and it's a word we need there's not a different term for it and it's a useful concept. Close minded people just hate that it implies the existence of trans people.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Something something snowflakes..

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (29 children)

I call myself cis male. What delicate fucking snowflakes.

EDIT: I want to provide some more information. I am a straight cis male. Straight is my sexual preference, cis gendered in my gender identity, and male is my biological sex as assigned at birth. I was first called cis male by a lesbian friend in a relationship with a trans-masculine lesbian (I think...s/he was a life long butch lesbian who began to transition socially after we met.) My friend described to me what cis meant and I said, "Ya, that describes me." I have a pair of trans women friends (one post-op and one who will never get the surgery.) I have a pair of gay friends, one who had always known that he was gay and one who was closeted his whole life, married, kids, and came out in his 50s. I had known him for 25 years and never thought about whether he was straight or gay. In my social circle, intellectual and liberal, it is handy to be able to let people know a bit about me in a few words. I've embraced "cis" because I don't think that I am superior because I am what I am. The people who are offended by being called "cis" are the ones who have sneered labels at others. I haven't done that. I also find it handy in social situations to be able to say I'm interested in straight or bi cis women.

I could not care less who you love, who you want to have sex with, how you present yourself, how you want to be addressed, etc. I have my preference but that's just me.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago

So Musk will let you use that word all you want because free speech, right?

...right?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Everyone should start talking about CSI incessantly.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (7 children)

So it's a gay-only platform now?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tired of hearing about Xhitter... Stop posting every excruciating minutiae about it and let it die already

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the best part about this is that elon basically is doing the john mulaney sketch where he says cis all the time to justify it but when asked why the n word is allowed, he refers to it without saying it.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago

"If you're comparing two words and won't say one of the words.. That's the worse word!"

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I honestly never even considered that it was a slur. Sometimes you are having a discussion where gender identity is relevant, and in that situation it is useful to be able to clearly indicate that someone is cisgender.

See I just used it.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

They don't want freedom of speech; they want licentiousness of speech.

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