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aka. dont use OpenOffice

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 6 months ago (2 children)

2009 - Oracle buys Sun Microsystems for $7.4 billion

R.I.P.

Everything Oracle touches turns to utter shit.

[–] possiblylinux127 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Except ZFS

Oh wait, it isn't GPL

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well worse than that, Oracle closed sourced ZFS, so OpenZFS was forced to become a fork, and they are no longer compatible with each other.

As for GPL the CDDL license that ZFS uses made sure that code contributions attribute copyright to the project owners, which means they can change the license as they please without having to track down contributors.

You would think with their investments in Oracle Linux and btrfs they would welcome that license change, but apparently they need excuses to keep putting money into Solaris, and their Oracle ZFS appliances instead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is OpenZFS what Ubuntu uses?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I believe so. The package descriptions for most of the ZFS packages in Ubuntu mention OpenZFS, so it certainly appears that way.

You can still create pools that are compatible with Oracle Solaris, you just have to set the pool version to 28 or older when you create it and obviously don't update it. That will prevent you from using any of the newer features that have been added since the fork.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

As long as you know it, it makes everything simple.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

They need to update that. They jumped to version 24 for 2024. 24.2.3 is the current version.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I’m still confused on what happened with OpenOffice. Is it not good now that it’s with Apache?

[–] anothermember 33 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It hasn't had a meaningful update in ~10 years, and the problem is it still has the brand recognition which keeps potential users away from LibreOffice. It's an embarrassment to Apache if you ask me.

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/10/12/open-letter-to-apache-openoffice/

[–] possiblylinux127 3 points 6 months ago

ASF is kind of an embarrassment to everyone including the ASF

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And then there is OnlyOffice which also just uses Libreoffice and develops a minimalist web UI and sync features.

Why not join efforts?

[–] anothermember 2 points 6 months ago

OnlyOffice is nowhere near as full-featured as LO, as well as having huge performance issues especially when dealing with large spreadsheets. I have no idea why it keeps getting recommended.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

OnlyOffice is not based on LibreOffice. There might be a point in joining forces with OpenOffice if OpenOffice actually had forces to join with, but it doesn't because it is a dead project.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Crazy, its completely new code? I thought it was a fork.

That makes it pretty impressive

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

OpenOffice is a zombie at this point.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

One of the common problems plaguing Apache is that a lot of their software rots on the vine for official support. OpenOffice is one of them, and it came into ASF like that, because the Oracle buyout caused a lot of Sun projects to wither. See also: Solaris and MySQL, which had very public forks.

[–] possiblylinux127 8 points 6 months ago

Check the git commit log

Then check the Libreoffice git commit log. There is a big difference

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I love this logo. <3

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] possiblylinux127 5 points 6 months ago