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Tier                          Original Pricing.       New Pricing
PS Plus Essential	£49.99 / $59.99	£59.99 / $79.99
PS Plus Extra	        £83.99 / $99.99	£99.99 / $134.99
PS Plus Premium	£99.99 / $119.99	£119.99 / $159.99

33+% is quite a hike, considering that Sony doesn't offer PS+ Day 1 Launches, unlike Xbox. I hope they start offering their games day one, else people will start to unsubscribe.

It's a bummer, since I like PS+ Extra a lot (don't get PS+ Premium, it's not worth it)

Also very scummy of them to hide their pricing update behind the Sept PS+ monthly games blogpost

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Save your money, buy a Steam Deck or a desktop PC, play games online with the internet service that you already pay a shit ton of money for, and don't look back. It's really stupid that we allowed game consoles to charge us to play online.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Steam deck is a great way to get into PC gaming if you don't have a lot of money or a PC. It can run a lot of games. Enough that you won't get bored any time soon.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, if you can, get a PC, they might cost more initially but they pay for themselves in the long run. No reason to own a console.

I bet Steam machines would do better if they were released now.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm not a console owner, are PlayStation owners really giving Sony $60 a year to play online multiplayer? It shouldn't cost anything in the first place. If Valve or GoG or anyone else started trying to tell me I had to pay them extra to send certain packets through my router, I'd have a good laugh.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I’m not a console owner, are PlayStation owners really giving Sony $60 a year to play online multiplayer?

It all started with the Xbox, since people did not questioned it and received it with open arms the others (Sony and Nintendo) just copied it. It's just matter of time we end up paying on PC too

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

PC gaming is actually a competitive market that would still give players options to escape that (Gog, steam, Epic, itch and humble dumble, hell even Microsoft store and company launchers), it is not guaranteed to never happen because cartels happen, but it is far more hard and improbable than consoles, which are locked-down computers with unbreakable monopolies installed in then, at the mercy of the feudal lord of choice. PS: not to mention, Piracy, emulators and Libre games on linux.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

PCMR. No paid online bullshit

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

It used to be charging you to send packets through servers that they (in this case, Sony) own, but now that may or may not be the predominant use case in this era of games as a service where the developer needs to run the game through their own servers anyway. The reason Valve, Epic, and CD Projekt don't charge you for it is because you're paying for it every time you buy a game through their stores, which also used to be a less prominent situation on consoles, but now well more than half of games are bought digitally on consoles as well. So PC has taken more and more market share while consoles continue upping the price of their mandatory subscription fees for online play, and one day they'll sit there scratching their heads, wondering where all of their customers went.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While this is true, it does at least provide access to a large library of games 🤷‍♂️ im certainly not thrilled about the increase but when your primary game platform is ps5, what can you do

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a good thing we all got 33% pay raises... Right?

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The higher upfront hardware costs of a decent PC become more worth it every day. Screw Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And it's capable of productivity with free tools like blender, visual studio code, and da vinci resolve. So that extra hardware can be used beyond just gaming.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I view my pc as a hobbyist's tool, instead of solely a gaming device. It has helped me learn many things outside of gaming, all the information it can get me and all the things i can do on it are frankly overwhelming.
Totally worth what I paid for this pc, 100%.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And let's not forget porn.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Let's not forget to mention the Steam Deck's low price for pretty great PC gaming. Even more so for the refurbished entry models which are nearly the same price as the last GPU I recommended to someone (secondhand 6700 XT). I've been surprised how good of an experience I've had with Baldur's Gate 3 on the Deck.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Well goodbye PS plus it was nice while it lasted. Jesus Christ why does every fucking service have to enshitify? Why goddamnit?!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know it's become a meme, but because capitalism. I'm surprised gamers more gamers aren't against it because it only ever makes our favorite hobby so much worse.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I stopped being amazed when console gamers argued on behalf of a billion dollar corporation for why online multiplayer had to be paid.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've got premium till May next year, always buy on Black Friday sales, cancelled my renewal, I can't justify that price. Hopefully everyone cancels their renewal, they get the message and undo the damage.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

Does Sony really think they can charge more than fucking Game Pass???

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Are they still going to auto renew this shit even though they massively increased the price? That should be illegal. I would have never seen the increase until after it was billed if not for this post.

Do you guys remember when prices used to go up like 3-5%? I guess corporations started taking notes from the fricken DMV.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

If you guys ever wonder why a seemingly modern computer goes for half of what a normal PC costs, this is why. They'll milk you dry with subscriptions like this

[–] xerazal 15 points 1 year ago

Whelp, I was keeping the sub purely because the games they give you monthly and so my ex could still play online, but nvm. Gonna cancel because it's not worth the cost. The games they give out monthly are usually mid and the online services haven't improved since the PS3 days when it was free.

Still don't have a PS5, and definitely not getting one now. Fuck off, Sony.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, that's another reason to consider completely switching over to gaming on PC. The free games are nice, but the quality always varies month to month and I really have to wonder if it's worth it to stay subscribed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They’re not free.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

considering that Sony doesn’t offer PS+ Day 1 Launches, unlike Xbox

They don't offer them as often as on Game Pass, but there are some day 1 launches on Extra.

As with most subscription models, the value proposition will probably decrease as we move forward (one only has to glance at streaming services to see what awaits us in the gaming space imo...). Bummer, but expected.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I share your sentiment. I previously owned an Xbox 360 but had been in the Sony camp for the past decade. For a few months I had a gamepass subscription without an Xbox console and I'm currently a PS+ premium member. The fact that you get day 1 access to first-party titles from Microsoft AND they have a gamepass streaming app on Android and PC is huge. I may have to reconsider the value proposition of my Sony services.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yup just cancelled my subscription, once i followed the link to confirm from Playstation not heresy. And yeah what a way to announce it, douches.

I'm a long time Playstation fan, had every system.

sigh

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

By comparison Nintendo charges 24.99 a year (In Canada) Its a much simpler service but you also get access to some of their old catalogue online.

Or even cheaper just use Steam.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus I'm so glad I haven't bought a console since the N64. Console players just get non-stop reamed.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hahaha fuck. I could never go back to console.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

looks up from her PC Gaming Rig You guys are paying for online plah?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, i'm gonna axe my PS Plus account. It ain't worth it. PS5 has no games.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Ah yes sell these consoles at discount in one month raise the subscription plans next month. Win-win

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the info. Canceled today.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

This price hike is absurd - fortunately the only game I play online (Warframe) is implementing cross-save soon, so I'll be able to move away from Playstation and stop renewing Plus - 80 dollars for online pay and cloud saves is robbery, how greedy can you get?!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, another very "for the players"-move indeed

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The columns were out of alignment for me, so I thought I'd display it as a table:

Tier Original Pricing New Pricing
PS Plus Essential £49.99 / $59.99 £59.99 / $79.99
PS Plus Extra £83.99 / $99.99 £99.99 / $134.99
PS Plus Premium £99.99 / $119.99 £119.99 / $159.99
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