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Can we get a consensus on whether our community should de-federate with servers that host loli? I personally think we should block them, and if that ends up not being the consensus here then I'll probably sign up on another server. I hope we can all agree to set that boundary though because I like it here and it seems otherwise pretty cool.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Am really confused

How do you get unsuscribed instances on your feed?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you are browsing by All then you see them all

I think , i haven't tried but I have seen it mentioned around. That we can block communities , so maybe that's something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Since i'm using a private instance, i don't see other instances until i explicitly visit them, i believe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

needs to be at least easy to make sure default all is sane, once a user signs in and does what they will they can see or block what they please, with start being the same sfw default .

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

That's not true. It's a petite anime girl, not underage. People keep trying to conflate the two. It's weird because even if they have big boobs and are obviously legal people still try to shove them into the title of being underage. (like the petite sensei, Uzaki, and Hestia from Is it Wrong to Pick up Girls in a Dungeon).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Basically shortstack anime girls or childrenish looking ones.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'd also like to have the ability to block entire instances. Not sure if the architecture would allow that, but at least the mobile apps should be able to filter out all posts from a specific instance

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Another vote for blocking but not de-federating. De-federating is a nuclear option with a lot of collateral damage, and it's pretty easy nowadays to just start screaming "pedophile" if your goal is to cause collateral damage. I'm worried that if instances start defederating in a knee-jerk reaction, it will be weaponized.

Just block it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

To everyone saying just block the communities:

  1. I don't want to have to block communities. In order to know I need to block a community, I have to see content which I feel is worth blocking. That's fine for most cases but in this case that is not fine (to me personally).

  2. I don't necessarily want to associate or interact with people who are fine having a server with loli as their home server. Not to be mean about it but that's just how I feel flat out.

I think this is an instance where de-federation is the correct course of action.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'd like a feature for user specific defederation of communities as you've mentioned. Not sure it is possible though.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you defederate it does that also block me from seeing posts here since my instance has not defederated it?

Its a pretty strong stance to say I don't want to interact with anyone who hasn't defederated X.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No it would just block interactions between the the 2 communities as far as I understand it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just checking out Lemmy for the first time so I'm not up to speed entirely on how everything works, but isn't the point of the system that you chose where to create or move your account so you can choose a community that already blocks stuff? I personally chose one that had nothing blocked and was blocked by nothing to start and intend to move to somewhere else if I see the need.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Kind of. In an ideal world where all the instances have already been created so we know what communities have what content. The problem is that as more people migrate and create their own instances or communities there will inevitably be new ones that are automatically federated with shit that just goes over a line of decency. As things change over time, so will the instances and which other instances they're federated with.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think as a user you can block a particular instance from showing up in your feed (for just you obviously).

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Im afraid to ask, but what is loli? Definitely don’t feel like looking it up if people are that put off by it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Child porn but with drawing

Depending where you live, it can be "still be legal" because no kid were raped, or illegal. So I am 100% sure blocking the whole instance hosting child-porn. I don't want to get in trouble with the law for watching the front-page. More important, I don't want hear that lemmy is used by pedophile to exchange child-porn

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hentai of underage persons. A lot of the time they'll try to pretend it's not by dressing it in a fantasy or scifi setting but that's what it essentially is. I personally see it as cp

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you, definitely glad I didn’t look that one up.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

So pedo cartoons?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, full agree. So far I've only had to block a few communities to get the loli to stop popping up on all, but a rogue instance could really start to spam people with pretty horrible stuff. That's what defederation is for, it seems, but there needs to be some rules in place for when the instance ban-hammer gets called upon.

It would be very nice if clients like Jerboa allowed users to choose to ban/filter specific instances for themselves without affecting everyone else, though.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'd like that shit gone too. I understand not wanting to close ourselves off too much but I think things like avoiding groups that are ok with shit like loli is a no brainer.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

@[email protected], this is what I messaged about before seeing there was a thread.

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