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Janeway to Tuvix (startrek.website)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She should have simply teleported everyone on the ship into the Tuvix collective.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A hive mind to rival the collective itself

Also, crewvix is brilliant

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I read it on Shitty Daystrom once, before the Great Migration. Thank them for the idea.

I wish we had Shitty Daystrom here...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should request it. I too miss shitty daystrom.

I was kicked off of Reddit last year for being too awesome and suggesting that queen Elizabeth dying wouldn't be a bad thing. Lol. She died later that week

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They said for another person something about numbers. However, Shitty Daystrom stuff can be on Risa until they get an actual community. so...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

One of the funniest ideas I've read on shittydaystrom

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the thing that a lot of people end up missing out of the conversation is whether Janeway wanted to do it or not. The whole point of being Captain is making incredibly tough decisions for what's best for the entire crew. You can tell in the shot of her walking away that she is extremely upset by what she just had to do. The ordering of it was bad enough but then her effectively executing him herself? In the Janeway Memoir, Janeway even says that she's been haunted by the decision ever since she made it. Wondering whether or not what she did was right. It's not like she was skipping down to Sickbay to repeatedly shank Tuvix with a sharp rock that fell from a bridge console.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's a complex episode that epitomises the very best of Star Trek writing.

However, what is telling is how a minority of fans think that because Neelix and Tuvok died in an accident, Tuvix needs to die in order to set that right.

Morally, I think it is wrong to sacrifice Tuvix and that they are a living being with a right to exist regardless of what accidents and what deaths preceded their creation. If I was in Janeway's position I wouldn't have made her choice, but I can understand why some people might have, and consequently been terribly haunted by their own decision. Though I would still disagree with it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

If I was in Janeway’s position I wouldn’t have made her choice, but I can understand why some people might have, and consequently been terribly haunted by their own decision. Though I would still disagree with it.

And that's why your very first sentence is so perfect.

It’s a complex episode that epitomises the very best of Star Trek writing.

Star Trek is fuckin awesome.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think the reasoning is pretty solid, stemming from the many vs the one.

Keeping Tuvix saves 1 plant. Removing the plant and splitting Tuvok and Neelix back saves 2 lives.

2>1.

Is it still shitty? God damn right it is. But it's still logical, even if a bit sterile.