this post was submitted on 15 Oct 2024
61 points (93.0% liked)

Technology

1421 readers
587 users here now

Which posts fit here?

Anything that is at least tangentially connected to the technology, social media platforms, informational technologies and tech policy.


Rules

1. English onlyTitle and associated content has to be in English.
2. Use original linkPost URL should be the original link to the article (even if paywalled) and archived copies left in the body. It allows avoiding duplicate posts when cross-posting.
3. Respectful communicationAll communication has to be respectful of differing opinions, viewpoints, and experiences.
4. InclusivityEveryone is welcome here regardless of age, body size, visible or invisible disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and expression, education, socio-economic status, nationality, personal appearance, race, caste, color, religion, or sexual identity and orientation.
5. Ad hominem attacksAny kind of personal attacks are expressly forbidden. If you can't argue your position without attacking a person's character, you already lost the argument.
6. Off-topic tangentsStay on topic. Keep it relevant.
7. Instance rules may applyIf something is not covered by community rules, but are against lemmy.zip instance rules, they will be enforced.


Companion communities

[email protected]
[email protected]


Icon attribution | Banner attribution

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

The experiment involved participants utilizing specialized equipment including sensors and earbuds. On September 24, one participant sleeping at home induced lucid dreaming, a state in which you are aware that you are dreaming. It is apparently a trainable skill, although I have only ever personally experienced it a handful of times throughout my life.

top 27 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Researchers at a California-based sleep startup claim it's possible to communicate with others while dreaming.

Is there some published article in a respected peer reviewed scientific journal?
If not, this may as well be the typical startup "fake it until you make it (or disappear)".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

the lucid dreaming communication experiment itself is decades old now, people in lucid dreams have communicated to conscious scientists by moving their eyes in patterns to communicate with sleep scientists talking to the dreamer or playing sounds for them while in a lucid dream state to indicate the dreamers' awareness and understanding of stimulus from the waking world.

The "first" they're talking about is an extension of that phenomen, which is cool in its own right.

heres a recent article about similar sleep studies:

https://www.science.org/content/article/scientists-entered-peoples-dreams-and-got-them-talking

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Interesting, but I didn't see a relation with the start up. Are they not really the first then?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, the proof has been established for decades.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6877973/

This is the original study from 1983, where conscious eye movements during REM sleep were used to communicate to the researchers while sleeping.
Proving for the first time that communication during sleep is possible, 4 decades ago.

[–] tomcatt360 19 points 1 month ago

"I've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yikes

While no doubt fascinating, it is also a bit frightening. The idea of commercializing dreams sounds ripe for misuse and if we're being force-fed content even while we are sleeping, when will we ever be able to truly unplug and get any actual rest?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

(A more) dystopian future in 3, 2..

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If it is really possible to reliably train oneself to lucid dream, that's probably as far as it should go... Beyond there lies madness

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

What do you think the business founder has in mind when they say this is revolutionary? Like what regular use could this be put to?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Maybe more working hours for office workers. Everyone can do another 8 hours of lucid night shift.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Advertising to you in your dreams.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

armies of half asleep prisoners, remote controlling robotic soldiers, thinking it a sweet video game.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Ideal: "Oh wow! I could hang out with friends in my dreams! Conversations on the moon!!"

Reality: "You’re late"

Bonus: "We don't have to pay them anything because they're not physically at work!"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

"Timecards... Timecards... Remember to fill out your timecards"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We need a remake of dreamscape now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You mean Nightmare on Elm Street

[–] laurelraven 1 points 1 month ago

Such an underrated movie

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Literally Hypnospace Outlaw.

Edit: Dreamsettler can't come soon enough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Pretty cool article. Thanks for sharing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

If this becomes reality we'll be learning lucid dreaming to avoid dream ads.

As if privacy wasn't already hard enough.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Visualize your dream
Record it in the present tense
Put it into a permanent form
If you persist in your efforts
You can achieve dream control

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It also helps to start doing reality checks while awake such that they become habitual enough to occur while dreaming. You want to specifically check things that tend to be vulnerable to dream logic like clocks or books because they'll often change if you look away and check / read them a second time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Very true. However, my comment was from a song called Silent Lucidity.

Gorgeous song if you’ve never heard it. It’s all about lucid dreaming.