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[–] [email protected] 193 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Imagine living in a 1950's time bubble. You are being constantly told through propaganda that your military force is cutting edge and that it can easily overwhelm any enemy.

Then you are being sent to fight on a battlefield where everyone has better gear than you, where you are confronted to weapons that are so far advanced beyond anything that you've ever seen they might as well be magic. Then you see said weapons completely obliterate your comrades without giving you a chance to even see the enemy who operates them.

You only obeyed so far because you feared what your government might do to you if you didn't. Now you've found something that you fear even more.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 month ago (1 children)

imagine them seeing the drone for the first time.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

For the first and last time 😟

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not sure they even hear them. I've watched 1,000 Russians die, clueless anything was targeting them.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're also used to standing around guarding a border all the time, not experiencing actual combat at all.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

And by "guarding the border" it really means "shooting anyone trying to escape"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Novel? As in a book of fiction? This is happening right now. I am sure some video of this will come out of this sad story and maybe in a few years some of these people who surrendered will be able to write their own story first hand. (I am assuming they will not want to go back to nk).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Yeah, a fictional account of a current situation is pretty preposterous, you’re right. Dunno what I was thinking.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I threw it into ChatGPT, then asked them to change the name from Henry to one common in Korea.

In-soo had always believed the stories. The glossy propaganda reels, the posters of steely-eyed soldiers, and the speeches from government officials all painted the same picture: his country’s military was unmatched, unstoppable. Though the world had advanced, In-soo’s nation remained locked in a past vision of itself, proudly touting its military might, using technology that hadn’t evolved much beyond the 1950s. Tanks, planes, and rifles that his father might’ve used were still standard issue. It was enough, they said, to overwhelm any enemy.

But when they arrived on the battlefield, the illusion shattered.

The air was thick with smoke and dust. In-soo clutched his rifle, a relic from an era that felt like ancient history. He could hear the hum of something—machines, weapons, drones? He didn’t know. The enemy was out there, but they remained invisible, their presence felt only through strange, high-pitched frequencies and flashes of light. He had been trained for combat in a conventional sense, but this wasn’t war as he understood it.

A blinding flash erupted in the distance. Seconds later, half his squad was gone, reduced to nothing more than ash. No gunfire, no warning—just a blip, and they were vaporized. In-soo froze. This wasn’t warfare. It was annihilation. The weapons being used against them were so advanced they were beyond his comprehension, like something out of a nightmare. Weapons that didn’t give him a chance to even see who—or what—was operating them.

“Stay together!” his commanding officer shouted, but it didn’t matter. How could they stay together when they couldn’t even see what was killing them? Panic surged through the ranks. Soldiers who had once stood tall, believing in their nation’s invincibility, now scattered in terror, desperate to survive.

In-soo crouched behind a rusted piece of machinery, gripping his rifle tightly, though he knew it was useless. He had been afraid of disobeying orders, terrified of what his government would do to him if he didn’t serve. But now, that fear felt insignificant. The enemy’s technology wasn’t just more advanced—it was like magic, bending the very rules of reality.

He glanced at the scorched earth where his comrades once stood, feeling a deep, gnawing helplessness. They weren’t soldiers anymore. They were bodies—disappearing in a war where they never stood a chance. In-soo had always feared the consequences of deserting or refusing to fight, but now, a new terror gripped him: the realization that he was facing something far worse than his government’s threats.

The certainty that had once bolstered him was gone. All that remained was the fear of an enemy he couldn’t see, couldn’t fight, and couldn’t even begin to understand.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

That's actually pretty good! Sure, lots of tweaking to be done, but pretty good overall.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 1 month ago

Well that's one way to escape North Korea I guess.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 month ago (1 children)

my first thought when nk sent troops was what an opportunity to get out of nk.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

NK probably loves the idea of less people?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They aren't going to want those 3000 troops coming back and talking about their time in the west.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I dunno the NK troops at least appear to have boots, so coming back and telling stories of how the 'western' Russian troops don't even have shoes or ammo is probably decent propaganda for the regime.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

Look at night time satellite imagery. South Korea looks like an island; the northern half of the peninsula is almost entirely dark.

The street lamps along their route to Ukraine will be enough to give them culture shock.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I know a good number of North Koreans would love to defect if there weren't going to be consequences for their families back home. Put those people in a situation where they can just disappear and have it explained as being honorably slain in combat? Seems like a golden opportunity if the country they defect to doesn't just send them back.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I know a good number of North Koreans...

How do you know so many North Koreans?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hah, got me there.

I did actually meet a North Korean once when I spent a fair bit of time in Seoul during a study abroad program, but she "defected" as a child (read: smuggled into the South via China by some Christian group) and didn't really have much recollection of what life in the North was even like. Definitely not many though!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

One is more than a lot of us can claim.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

One of my parents was in North Korea multiple times in the 80s as a tour guide from the Eastern Block, I remember hearing the stories about it when I was a child.

Cameras being taken, poverty housing blocked off with walls, fake buildings and rooms, US soldiers watching them from the other side of the DMZ “negotiation building”.

I always took these stories for granted, and didn’t realize for a long time how special and unique these experiences were. When I tell my Western EU colleagues they always drop their jaws.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Hi Kim, me and my whole family wants to def .. go to Ukraine and die for you!!

The whole family!

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

How pathetic does Russia have to be to be bringing NORTH KOREAN troops into the war. It would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What's pathetic about it? Cannon fodder is cannon fodder. They can hold a rifle just as well as any other person, and they can use it to kill. Acting like getting foreign troops helping you is somehow beneath you in a war is insane

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Sadly, this.

Fictional, but

ONE OUT OF TWO GETS RIFLE. THE ONE WITHOUT, FOLLOWS HIM! WHEN THE ONE WITH THE RIFLE GETS KILLED, THE ONE WHO IS FOLLOWING PICKS UP THE RIFLE AND SHOOTS!

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

18 doesn't seem like many. North Korea must have sent thousands

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

I think I read somewhere 3000 to that unit / region

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago

This is great news. OTOH, these deserters condemned 3 generations of their family back home.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

North Korean battle theme in Ukraine:

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

I'll file this under "Most Easily Predicted Outcome."

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Yeah they’ll do that. You gotta make people want to stay

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