this post was submitted on 19 Nov 2024
472 points (92.1% liked)

politics

19120 readers
2489 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

Trump’s popular vote share has fallen below 50% to 49.94%, with Kamala Harris at 48.26%, narrowing his margin of victory.

Trump’s share of the popular vote is lower than Biden’s in 2020 (51.3%), Obama’s in 2012 (51.1%) and 2008 (52.9%), George W. Bush’s in 2004 (50.7%), George H.W. Bush’s in 1988 (53.2%), Reagan’s in 1984 (58.8%) and 1980 (50.7%), and Carter’s in 1976 (50.1%).

The 2024 election results highlight Trump’s narrow victory and the need for Democrats to address their mistakes and build a diverse working-class coalition.

The numbers also give Democrats a reason to push back on Trump’s mandate claims, noting most Americans did not vote for him.

(page 2) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (11 children)

now take into account the massive GOP voter fraud

load more comments (11 replies)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

The 2024 election results highlight Trump’s narrow victory and the need for Democrats to address their mistakes and build a diverse working-class coalition.

just to be clear, this isn't really a failing of the dems per say, not to say they didn't have issues, they did. But this was a global shift away from incumbency. This seems to be more of a response to covid and inflation more than anything else possibly could've influenced it.

Lucky break for trump, dems just have to come back stronger i guess.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The big problem is we all think someone else will solve this issue. All the investigations, congress, and even the public... they did nothing.

Run for office. Start small. Kick them out of the school boards follow their playbook and work bottom up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

That is certainly a possible solution. However I also think a lot of folks simply don't have the time to commit in addition to their regular jobs and responsibilities. Guess that's how we wound up with so wealthy people in politics... they got all that free time ⏰ (and they think they know what's best for everyone else too, perhaps? 🙃)

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I actually prefer him wining the popular vote. At least this time it’s what most Americans (that are willing to show up) want.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only thing of note here is that since the winner got <50%, then I’m guessing 3rd party votes were slightly higher this election.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

1.7% in 2024.
1.9% in 2020.
5.7% in 2016.
1.7% in 2012.
1.4% in 2008.

2024 is not the outlier. It's mostly about how well the other major party candidate does.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, 4% less in 2024 than in 2016, the last time he won. That by itself stands in pretty stark contrast to those who want to blame his victory on people who voted for a third party.

Trump won in 2024 chiefly because millions upon millions of Dems who voted in 2020 stayed home in 2024. That's the reality.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Since when has reality made any difference at all to Trump?

He doesn't believe he has a mandate because the numbers add up that way, so he's not going to believe he doesn't because they don't. He believes he has a mandate because he's the bestest and smartest and most perfect president ever in the history of ever. And he's never going to stop believing that.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›