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    Windows VS Linux (lemmy.world)
    submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
     
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    [–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (8 children)

    Biased as fuck lol. Installing windows is not difficult. I did it first time at the age of 8 witn WIndows 98 and their newer installers are made so the general public can do it. And the bloat and spyware? Thats windows dude. Its not meant to be your OS, its meant to spy on your ass at the benefit of being familiar and (relative) easy to use. Anything you do to it post clean install is your own tinkering. Linux distros are great yall, but install difficulty is not a metric I would use to attack windows. Comparing between distros makes sense.

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    [–] rumba 1 points 15 hours ago

    This is 100% true, but the chart inverts when you have a problem you're trying to fix.

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    I don't even know what this graph is even supposed to mean. Bitch about Windows all you like but the installation process is typically very simple.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

    There is no X axis so I'm going to assume it means potatoes per guinea pig

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

    I guess it means that no one here knows what Windows Debloated is and didn't read far down enough to see regular windows marked as very easy to install.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Boot off usb, create partitions, wait, spend five screens clicking 'no' on all of the options, unplug ethernet so it allows you to make a local account, wait, login, spend 15 minutes uninstalling all of the preinstalled nonsense, disable all of the advertising on the task bar and desktop, pretend the rest of the telemetry doesn't exist, download and install the latest drivers from each manufacturers website. Very simple.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

    Man. Last time I just wanted to check if my new laptop was working properly, so I booted up it's preinstalled Windows. I literally had to look up how to get Windows to get me into Explorer without creating an account or connecting it to my network.

    It took me about 25 minutes and Windows was already installed on the damn thing.

    It took 15 minutes from booting a prepared Fedora stick to logging in.

    I honestly believe that, by now, Linux is no more difficult than Windows. People are just not used to the differences.

    [–] Honytawk 5 points 1 day ago

    You got a point up until you login.

    Afterwards, just run a powershell script that automatically uninstalls the bloat and disables all the stuff you don't want. Takes 30 seconds at most.

    Drivers are automatically installed via Windows update for everything except Nvidia.

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    [–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

    Mint was super easy. I just had to scratch my head for two days trying to figure out why the keyboard didn't work after coming out of suspend. Had something to do with it being in a USB 3.0 port. Once I plugged it into a 2.0-port it worked.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

    The debate has never been so intense! It might not be the Year of the Linux Desktop, but that's certainly a great one

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

    Where’s Arch if you don’t RTFM? (I mean we’ve got 2 windows install modes there… only fair)

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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Installing debloated windows is not difficult at all.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    And how difficult is it to keep it debloated? MS seems to be hellbent on pushing their crap into everyone's face.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    Every Windows apologist: "I will keep current on the hacks to fix it forever, easy."

    I'm glad I invested the time learning Linux before I had kids and now have no time for anything.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

    I hope you don't think I'm being a Windows apologist. I'm not defending Windows itself, I'm just saying that it isn't that hard to debloat it.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

    Understood, sorry to imply that you were.

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

    I would say it is, it's extra installation steps. Fedora I just click a handful of buttons and the OS is installed with no Spyware

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

    Its called Installing linux.

    [–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (21 children)

    Windows requires pressing next 12 times, what are you people smoking and can I haz?

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (18 children)

    There's also a number of things you have to click "no" on, like a free trial office or Onedrive.

    It took me around an hour to set up my new Win 11 laptop, most of which was downloading and installing updates. I expected far worse.

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

    So by linux, you mean not every open OS? Can we add freebsd? Not the easiest but lots of users willing to help on a forum post.

    [–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (12 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 115 points 1 day ago (14 children)

    I've never "debloated" Windows so idk about the top half.

    The bottom half is accurate. Debian, Fedora, and Mint are easier to install than Windows 10 or 11. Not that Windows is difficult, it's just a bit clunky and idiosyncratic.

    I assume Microsoft doesn't care much about the installer since it's generally only used by OEMs, whereas for Linux distros it's a first impression so it has to be polished.

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