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Writing a 100-word email using ChatGPT (GPT-4, latest model) consumes 1 x 500ml bottle of water It uses 140Wh of energy, enough for 7 full charges of an iPhone Pro Max

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

Why does the article make it sound like cooling a data center results in constant water loss? Is this not a closed loop system?

I’m imagining a giant reservoir heat sink that runs throughout a complex to pull heat out of the surrounding environment where some liquid evaporates and needs to be replenished. But first of all we have more efficient liquid coolants, and second that would be a very lazy solution.

I wonder if they’ve considered geothermal for new data centers. You can run a geothermal loop in reverse and use the earth as a giant heat sink. It’s not water in the loop, it’s refrigerant, and it only needs to be replaced when you find the efficiency dropping, which can take decades.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

Yes, the vast majority are closed loop systems and the water isn't really used up, like a lot of these headlines imply.

That's not to say the energy being used can't be put to better uses, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 24 minutes ago

Not used up per se but sequestered. It's water that nobody will ever get to drink or use for crops, etc.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm sure I'm missing out, but i have no interest in using chatbots and other LLMs etc. It floors me to see how much attention they get though, how much resources are being dumped into their development and use. Nuclear plants being reopened for the sake of AI?!!

I also assume there's a lot of things they're capable of that could be huge for science, and there's likely lots of big things happening behind closed doors that we're yet to see in the coming years. I know it's not all just chatbots.

The way this article strikes me though, is that it's pretty much just wasting resources for parlor-game level output. I don't know if i like the idea of people giving up their ability to write a basic letter or essay, not that my opinion on the matter is gonna change anything obviously 😅

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago

Think of it like this: rich people accumulate more wealth by paying fewer people to accomplish more work faster, so it's worth burning through the worlds resources at breakneck speed to help the richies out, right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

yeah, but it can do really cool things like "suggest a name for my project that does X".

surely that game's worth the candle, yes?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Absolutely my favorite game ever

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Hah! Haha! Hahahaahah! Ties well with this one news article that I glimpsed that claims that by 2030 the need for fresh water will be 140% of the world's freshwater reserves. Infinite growth forever!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 minutes ago

New admin will do its part by discouraging pregnancy and encouraging people to die sooner.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Time to buy stock in water lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

So, Nestlé stocks?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

The real surprise for me is how little the battery of my iphone holds. Especially compared to my ev6 or what my heat pump guzzles daily. Crazy.