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Wayland and audio is fixed, but only on the canary branch for the moment, this isnt lazy either, they changed the whole screenshare flow to suit linux's permission prompts

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Oh awesome, I’ve been using the webcord version as the others were all shit for screen sharing. Having said that even webcord also has weird sound issue sim hoping are fixed with this.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've been screen sharing from discord on hyprland for months, it wasn't already working?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Last I checked I could only share specific windows, not the whole screen. Later there was also an update with a window or screen selection dialogue that didn't work at all, I think. After that I stopped using it on wayland.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

When do they stop selling user data? Next patch?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Spacebar doesn't even do voice calls does it? Let alone screen share

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yea Its not perfect, but hopefully on the way

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It's not ready for most people unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Nice! Thank you

[–] Blisterexe 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

they say they dont sell any user data, although i have my doubts about that

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It doesn't really matter if they do or don't. What matters is that they can change their TOS at any time, they keep an archive of all historical data, and you will have pretty much no recourse no matter what they decide to do with it in the future.

Who knows what will happen to Discord in five or ten years?

They might get bought by a narcissistic billionaire.

They might sell all their data to Google for training AI.

They might go bankrupt and sell off their assets to the highest bidder.

They might have an IPO and begin the usual value extraction at the expense of their users.

I know, I know...crazy ideas, right? When has anything like that ever happened?!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

all of this is true with literally any company.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

Almost, yeah. Certainly the big corps.

This is why I strongly favor services that use end-to-end encryption or do not store history in the first place.

There are not many times when I've needed to search back through history on a Discord server, and every time I have I thought to myself "this would be much better on any platform besides Discord". Discord would, IMHO, be a better product if they did not retain history forever.

Ditto for Slack. Slack has the additional gall to limit access to that data unless you pay for a premium plan, despite the fact that they keep the data forever regardless (as evidenced by their occasional free trials which magically bring all history back, and some search tricks you can use to access old posts regardless).

Both Slack and Discord have lulled their user base into a false sense of privacy. Nothing you post there should be considered private.

[–] Blisterexe 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i think you're totally right, i just dont like people saying theyre doing it right now.

Frankly i think we should use matrix instead, but it just isnt good enough yet

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, Matrix is a very, very hard sell. I mean, "normal" people (for lack of a better term) are put off by Mastodon, and Matrix is a hundred times more complicated to join. I'm also not sure what it would look like to use Matrix the way I use Discord. Perhaps there is functionality in Element/Matrix I have never explored since I use it more for messaging and group chat, not for communities with multiple channels like IRC/Discord/Slack.

In any case, Discord is too entrenched to be replaced by something that is merely technically superior, or even more user-friendly. Realistically, you can't migrate entire communities if they're bigger than a tight-knit IRL friend group, and even that is hard. That seems to be the only reason X still exists.

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[–] [email protected] 171 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (37 children)

I was almost convinced they were keeping this broken on purpose, it's been broken so long. Like, years long.

It was broken so long I honestly wouldn't have been surprised if news surfaced that Discord was taking back-handers from Microsoft under the table to keep it broken. With steam working so well on Linux now, broken discord streaming without actual working audio share was one of the last things that posed a hurdle for gamers ditching Windows.

(In the meantime, thank you Vesktop for your service <3)

[–] Blisterexe 69 points 3 days ago

I saw something from a discord dev (can't find it, so grain of salt) about how there was interest recently to do it, but they'd have to work on other stuff that affected everyone first, and they'd probably get it done by q4 2024, guess they were right.

I think before then the whole linux graphics and audio space hadn't really stabilized enough for them to be interested.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It was broken so long I honestly wouldn’t have been surprised if news surfaced that Discord was taking back-handers from Microsoft under the table to keep it broken.

Tech companies are fully capable of being lazy for free. Fixing this takes dev time from other work that brings Discord money so doing this costs them, especially considering that Linux userbase must be rather tiny. 99% of software companies don't give a shit about making quality product and will always try their hardest to do as little work as possible while making as much money as possible. If fixing a bug will cost them more than potential profits from making it work then they won't fix it.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 days ago (34 children)
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago

Took them long enough

[–] Blisterexe 89 points 3 days ago (6 children)

And yes, vesktop did it first, but discord's version is quite a bit more polished

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But still doesn't accept my legitimate phone number, which is mandatory now.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Only in servers that enabled that verification. Its a server setting

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[–] PromptX 34 points 3 days ago

That's about time.. I won't be uninstalling vesktop tho

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Oh my fuck, finally. Good lord Discord, only took you eons to get that working with Wayland after you broke it.

I get that there's other things like Discord out there, but nothing works like Discord.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

This is past due, I use Vencord.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

About fucking time

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Just installed Canary on my system to test this, and while it's a little janky and the hardware acceleration seems to stop other apps using the GPU at the same time this is still good enough I think I can finally move to Linux as my main OS. I assume this will get polished further in the future. Great stuff though.

[–] GregorGizeh 16 points 3 days ago (9 children)

There is another, semi official linux client called vesktop. Comes with a range of plugin options, all improving or enabling functions the default client doesnt offer or hides behind a paywall. It also has had screen share on Linux for the longest time,if you do the switch give it a go. Certainly better than the default app

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