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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

“Effectively, what he’s saying is that even though there’s a guarantee of birthright citizenship,” explains Evan Bernick, an assistant professor of law at Northern Illinois University and co-author of The Original Meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment: Its Letter and Spirit, “the president can kind of turn it off by declaring an invasion and try to remove whoever he says is invading…It’s not even a loophole, it swallows the entire guarantee.” The fact that Trump referred to a foreign invasion in his campaign video, he adds, suggests they might be anticipating litigation and trying to “boost as much as possible their very minimal odds.”

This is an extraordinarily dangerous approach. He'll basically be declaring them to be enemy combatants. That means he can involve the military. That means he can declare protesters to be giving "aid and comfort" to enemies, and charge them with treason.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Gosh… an unfettered imperial presidency using a pretext to revoke a person’s citizenship…

So anyone who ever donated to … oh say… not him, could suddenly be stateless?

I’m sure I’m over reacting, and I don’t want to “slippery slope “ but isn’t that a reasonable reading of his statement?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Fascism loves slippery slopes. Why do you think conservatives pull that one out so much? It's always projection. Because they would immediately do the worst thing possible, they assume everyone else would

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean if you declare people an enemy and set the army against them... thats how you get guerilla warfare. Many Americans genuinely would rather die than be the stepped on snek.

And that genie is so hard to put back in the bottle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Vlad on the edge of bankruptcy and defeat: rubs hands together

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

And this is how it will start.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Vivek Ramaswamy closing the gate behind him.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

TLDR, fascists are gonna make shit up to do exactly what you think fascists do.

The details don't really matter. Stop giving yourself reasons to say 'but he can't do that!' and internalize that words aren't what will stop him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Sure would be funny if all the born here brown people who voted for trump found themselves in a train or a camp go leopard party! But honestly I can't think of a more unAmerica idea.