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I don't know if you've noticed this, but threads or comments about Lemmy or the Fediverse get downvoted a lot on Reddit and trolls who claim that it's "dogshit" and "not going anywhere" get systematically upvoted.

Some of those trolls get then exposed when you ask them what Lemmy instance they tried and one of them with whom I had a surreal exchange answered with something like "yeah ofc I used Lemmy, this is the instance: join-lemmy.org" 🤦‍♂️

It's frustrating that these trolls keep contributing to the big lie that "Lemmy is not ready yet" and that there's "no viable alternative to Reddit".

This and the overwhelming number of comments being "against the mod protests" just prompts me to question whether there isn't some brigading being organized straight from the Reddit HQ.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

One of these guys asked me to think about reddits revenue… very strange

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, to be fair, I do think that people have a point when they say Lemmy isn't ready or yet on scale of reddit to be equal competition. Lemmy doesn't have a userbase as large, even throughout all instances, and it also probably wouldn't be able to sustain if everyone left reddit and came here, which means less content.

But who cares? I certainly don't want all redditors to leave and come here. I do think reddit itself is probably sabotaging discussions of alternatives but there are plenty of real users who would say the exact same things. Corporate actions aside, reddit also sucked because of its users and the culture created there. Not all users add value. If those trolls, Right-wingers, and shills all came here, then it would replicate the garbage. There are some aspects of reddit I'll miss, or may sometimes dip into in the future for a transaction, like a Criterion film marketplace, but I'm otherwise happier here. If those things from reddit that I miss or want are eventually replicated on Lemmy then I'll never in any form go back to reddit. If redditors are happy with their shitposts and bot-populated or meme-speak comments on reddit but think Lemmy is the dogshit, then all the better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I keep seeing posts about how Lemmy isn't an alternative because of the main developer's political views. Like this one: https://teddit.net/r/APIcalypse/comments/140qymq/lemmy_is_not_a_viable_reddit_replacement/

What does it even matter? It's open-source.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’d honestly be happy if the people who are swayed away from Lemmy for that reason stayed away from Lemmy. I don’t at all agree with the developer there and anyone who posts that kind of thing is gross. But anyone sensitive enough to take that as a reason to stay away from Lemmy is super annoying and I’m happy they aren’t here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, Lemmy is a great alternative, simply because regardless of the devs political views, literally anyone can fork it on GitHub, make Lemmy2, and link it up with OG Lemmy and Kbin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, and as it is today, most instances aren't even run by that dev.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's what it felt like for me after I posted anything lol. But is it bots, is it Reddit themselves?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I came here to look to see if this topic was covered. I just checked my mod queue and every single post made by my automod OR other users about Lemmy was reported multiple times for "harassment" with 40+ down votes as well. I've literally never had a full mod queue that was more than 6 things before and I had 30 or more posts to approve with 3 being actual things. What the fuck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This place is becoming an echo chamber.

I don't doubt that there are bots in the comments on Reddit (as if that can even be disputed) but pretending like nobody could possibly just not be interested in moving to lemmy is wrong. There's lots of teething troubles here still which need to be resolved before most people will consider it. Whinging about astroturfing comment sections isn't gonna make dankmemes or pcmasterrace come to lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've spoken to people IRL who say that the protests are pointless, even if I show them a new community growing because of them. There is probably some shenanigans involved in the volume of anti-protest activity, but there are plenty Redditors with Stockholm Syndrome to give them credibility

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If they want to gate-keep themselves then fine by me.

I legit joined this instance yesterday because I'm not going to trust the claims of randos (who are now very easy to see as frauds) and although I agree that Lemmy needs some work, it's responsive and reasonably usable. I'm impressed at how well it's handling the massive Reddit migration.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

and for some bizarre reason, there are people here who want to scape all this reddit crap with a bot and dump it in our /all feed. I just dont get it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I just deleted all my posts, comments and my account on Reddit. No need to get frustrated over people who wants to be a part of that shit show. Also you can't be sure that they are real people and not paid trolls to discourage people. At this point anything is possible with Reddit.

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