this post was submitted on 27 Dec 2023
112 points (75.5% liked)

News

23424 readers
2969 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 30 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 94 points 11 months ago

It's the holidays and everyone is traveling. Get your clickbait headlines outta here.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"Everyone"

about 23% of people participating in a weekly text-message-based survey reported having a cough or shortness of breath for the week that ended Dec. 10

Do editors even exist anymore?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes, they are the ones writing the headlines. 99% of what gets published online as news is titled by someone who isn't the author. The goal of the editor is to sell the piece to the reader, not to speak truth or accuracy.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

“Everyone seems to be”

It’s a figure of speech. It doesn’t actually mean everyone. It just means “a lot,” and a quarter of people surveyed is kind of a lot.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can't miss an opportunity to Well Acktchually. 23% really is a huge amount

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

23% in that week in particular, let alone the X% in the week before and after

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I hate this figure of speech crap. It's not a figure of speech, it's lazy and wrong.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you also get annoyed when something not actually cold is called cool? Or if someone doesn't actually get to a task "in a minute"?

If literally everyone in CA was actually sick, that would have a bigger impact than late-2020 COVID. I'd prefer if language wasn't catered to the type of person who doesn't recognize the post title is an exaggeration to convey seriousness.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

When it is a news headline, yes, using "cool" wrong is unacceptable. Its a thing called "journalistis standards".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Wait, they crapped speech in the figure of what?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago

I mean… this isn’t surprising at this time of year. Many are traveling, in close proximity with one another and we have two holidays relatively close to one another (Thanksgiving and Christmas) that will have many people gather in one place, usually indoors.

It all provides a great environment for things to spread.

Not to mention the large amount of people who come into work sick at this time of year too.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Nationally, COVID-19 remains the primary cause of new respiratory hospitalizations and deaths, resulting in about 1,000 fatalities a week.

1000 deaths a week? This seems like it should be newsworthy no?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Weekly covid deaths

(note this only goes to Dec. 10-16th thus far).

I don't know. We know covid deaths will ramp up just like flu every season now. But relative to past spikes, 1,000 per week nationally is pretty low.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

people wouldn't wear masks or 6ft distance when it was the death equivalent of 9/11 (~3000) every day for months

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Only if it was it of the ordinary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Compared to the ~25,000 weekly deaths in 2021? The world simply decided that it was tired of dealing with COVID restrictions, and that it wouldn’t be worth trying to eradicate it. So we just decided on what an acceptable number of deaths is, and don’t bother reporting on it unless it’s outside of that norm.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

If you can capitalize, yes.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They won't report COVID. They know who signs their paychecks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] deroyonz 11 points 11 months ago

if you look under a microscope you will see covid signing paychecks to keep its evil schemes under wraps

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Business signs their paychecks and business does not want to do anything about COVID.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why did things go differently in 2020, if this conspiracy theory holds any water?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's not a "conspiracy theory", they outright said (over and over and over) that we need to stop COVID lockdowns, masking, etc and "get back to normal" for the sake of the economy. This wasn't some secret and it was not that long ago! The concern was more about the impact on the economy, on whether the line went up or down, than on human lives. (Random sampling of articles: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.)

COVID hasn't gone away and it's still killing people, even with vaccines. (Sure would help if people would take the vaccines, though.)

The only material difference between now and 2020 is we have some handle on this thing, it's not completely overwhelming our health care system and it's better understood in general so we can treat and prevent it better.

(Edit: actually there's a second material difference. The disease is much deadlier now than it was at the start of this. )

However, there's also a difference in that three (or four) years have passed. The opposition to measures against COVID has largely won--the people calling the shots decided to join the war on disease on the side of the disease.

We can do this, though! We could do something about it. During the COVID lockdowns we actually (accidentally) wiped out multiple entire strains on the Flu! They're dropping one of the strains from the Flu shot because it doesn't exist anymore (in the wild at least). However, i worry it could go the other way as well. If this attitude about COVID takes hold in general we could make disease worse for everyone.

Here's a long article that talks about this: https://johnsnowproject.org/insights/endemic-sars-cov-2-and-the-death-of-public-health/

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

It's all over the place. Here in Texas, too. I'm fully vaccinated, and mask in public, but this has been a tough season for me, as I caught stuff from careless relatives.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

everyone in California

about 23% of people participating in a weekly text-message-based survey reported having a cough or shortness of breath for the week that ended Dec. 10

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The only thing wrong with me is this cough that I've had for more than a month and won't go away

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Cancer do be like that.

I know a guy who went to get checked for a respirator as part of a hazardous workplace PPE and found out he had a probably benign 10cm mass in one lung. Never had symptoms until he moved from the southwest to the Midwest and developed a persistent unproductive cough.

Point is that if you have a persistent cough, it might be best to sign up for some medical debt so you know what season of America's Got Talent you will miss.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Went in last wk in SF. NP said obscene levels of adults with strep, COVID, RSV, cold, flu, and frequent cases with 2 or more. Shit on the "clickbait headline" but my medical provider said it verbatim...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I had to miss out on a lot of family stuff because I came down with croup or something nasty that developed from rhinovirus/common cold.

Nearly 6 weeks later and I still have some coughing fits. I faired better than many though. Nasal irrigation, vitamins, and saltwater gargling probably helped.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I’m visiting family in the middle plain states and lots of sick ppl here but it’s also just that time of year