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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like how r/mildlyinfuriating is full of injustices and crimes instead of like, a slightly misaligned tile.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Redditors are immortal beings with very little regard for mortal human lives, and as such view stage 4 cancer as a minor inconvenience much like a slightly misaligned tile.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Thats what goes for mildly inconvenient these days.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I've never tried this, but advice I've seen online is if your doctor won't order testing, ask them to note in your chart that they are declining testing. Apparently the implicit threat of a lawsuit if they're wrong is enough to kick at least some of them into CYA mode.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

On that note, why would they decline tests in the first place? You're the one paying.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pharmacist and 4th year medical student here. Medical tests are ordered based upon their statistical ability to alter your likelihood of a diagnosis. No test is perfect in either direction (negative result meaning you don't have disease or positive result indicating you have disease). Tests cost money, take resources of the healthcare system, and have the potential to be wrong. When a test is wrong, it can result in financial, emotional, and physical harm to an individual.

Example: you're an otherwise healthy 34 year old and you feel a little under the weather and are coughing. It's only been going on a few days, mild fever, but you're worried and you go to the doctor. Your doctor thinks this is most likely a viral infection, recommends Tylenol and ibuprofen and sends you home. You imply to the doctor you'll sue if you don't get antibiotics and a chest x-ray just to be safe. The doctor, rather than argue with you when they have a dozen other patients to see, just orders the stuff and moves on. The chest X ray doesn't explain your cough, but there's a small lesion of undetermined significance on the X-ray. Now you need a CT. The CT says "probably a self-limited granuloma from a fungal infection, can't rule out cancer, correlate with biopsy". Then you have to go get sedated, put a camera down your throat, and have a pulmonologist take a sample of your lung to see if you have cancer. Maybe you end up with a complication from the sedation or a pneumothorax. Meanwhile the antibiotics you took didn't really improve your cough but now you have this uncomfortable itchy rash. Are you allergic to the amoxicillin? Or did you just develop the typical rash seen in people who have mononucleosis that also take amoxicillin? Will you get allergy testing for the amoxicillin? Just avoid amoxicillin, an awesome antibiotic, for the rest of your life?

We are restrictive in our prescribing of medications and tests not because we don't care about you, not because we want to save the hospital or the insurance company money (in fact the hospital prefers we order more things because they make money on testing). We are restrictive because we want to maximize benefit while minimizing risk, and everything we do has risks and benefits.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because tests have harm. The average persone doesn't understand what the sensitivity and specificity of a test means.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is actually true. We have an over testing problem in the western world and it does cause some people harm, at least in the form of stress and anxiety caused by believing you have something that you don't (due to false positives), or in some cases in the form of unnecessary operations and their associated medical risk.

And that's without getting into the financial impacts, whether that be an impact on an individual or, in a civilised country, on the government.

That's obviously not to say that nothing should be tested. Only that tests should be limited to cases with a heightened risk, be it someone showing symptoms (as OP obviously was, which is why this general problem of over testing is not applicable in this case) or being part of a demographic know to have heightened risk, as determined by experts and medical best practices.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah, great question, I don't understand it either, but marginalized groups like women or people of color can have a hell of a time getting medical professionals to take their concerns seriously. Maybe it's just a hubris thing. "How dare this person question my judgment when I'm the doctor?"

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well I'm guessing that the healthcare will pay it. And at least in Switzerland, the healthcare can announce official that they won't pay anymore for anything that one doctor decides/order. So if the doctor orders to many thing, that the healthcare has to cover, then he soonly will lose his job. So in this way the doctor will only order stuff that are really needed and maybe won't make a test against cancer (but this happens not really often)

Else if the customer has to pay, then yes it would be stupid to not let the customer do the test.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Possibly Kaiser, or similar, where they're the ones paying themselves which is somehow legal?

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Those organs appear to be lungs.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The mildly infuriating part is how obviously fake it is

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Earlier on Lemmy's life, there was someone here telling people of how many fake reddit stories they had written to places like Am I The Asshole using numerous alts.

And how they were convinced of doing it because they were an editor, and they were used to seeing so much badly written anecdotes with no respect for narrative or proper focus on details of importance... Until Reddit hapenned and flipped that. It was a source of far too many interesting and well edited stories and something was off. They were certain that the average person with a story to tell was far less educated in English, far less capable of shorthanding detail, than what Reddit had to offer on average, and the answer was that people were just using it as a creative writing exercise platform. So, they used it that way too, since they wanted to bea fiction writer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That's an interesting theory they had, but I'm not sure their evidence necessarily followed.

The upvote/downvote mechanism and the Reddit alogithm mean that the stuff that you're most likely to see is not necessarily "the average person with a story to tell". Because if they're a bad writer, people are more likely to downvote it. It's a sort of sampling bias.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I found the OP on reddit . They state that they beat the cancer.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah, that brain tumor just has its own rib cage, vertebral column, sternum...

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This happened with my mum but with breast cancer, ended up dying because of it, very infuriating

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

my condolences friend.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm so sorry

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

doctors dismiss womens pain so often and with such regularity that I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. Almost all of medical research is done in regards to how it affects a white male, neglecting to take into account differences between that of a white man and literally everyone else.

additionally this is another symptom of Americas sexism, which is just as prevalent than its racism. the fact that black men got the vote before white women did should tell you how little conservative republicans think of their "better halves."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I didn't realize it this was bad for women. I listenened to the horror stories my gf told me about her experiences at doctor offices and im shocked how awful it is compared me to.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TBF this doesn’t have anything to do with sexism, it’s just general incompetence. Listening to the lungs with a stethoscope would have been enough to notice that something was very wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I have to fight every time I am suffering. It's ridiculous.

  • Bad cramps; must be normal period pain.... Nope! Severe Endometriosis that required surgery.

  • Exhausted all the time; must need to exercise more... Nope! Narcolepsy!

  • Joint pain and weakness; you could afford to lose 10lbs... Nope! Ehlers Danlos Syndrome

  • Passing out going from heat and movement; change your diet and drink more water... Nope! Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome

  • My feet are always freezing; wear more clothes... Nope! My veins are literally leaking (found this out on the 30th)

  • Headaches where I blackout and slur words; must be hormones or poor nutrition... Nope! Hemiplegic Migraine Disorder and TIA(mini strokes)

  • Getting spacey, dropping things, memory issues; must be a hypochondriac... Nope! Seizures.

  • I fought for 7 years to get sterilized because my health problems are genetic and was told I was too young to make that decision (at 24) and that my ex husband might change HIS mind about wanting kids so they wouldn't do it.

I'm so sick of doctors not listening to me because I'm a woman who is not even remotely fat, but has a pronounced hourglass figure. (Size H chest)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I think is more serious and affects all sexes and races equally is doctors dismissing all medical complaints if you are overweight. It's like it's the only thing they can focus on and their only thing they will talk about until you lose the weight

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If that's a brain it belongs to the elephant man...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Those are lungs seen top down. Those white ovals around the left and right sides sorta hugging the black areas are ribs, the white arrow shape is a vertebrae the hole in it for the spinal cord.

I'm not a rad tech or doctor but I'm 99% sure.

https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.1148/ryct.2020200193

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know someone who has been having all sorts of medical problems for the last few years. In and out of ER every few days sometimes, always got discharged with "idk"

They finally did a biopsy and It came back cancer.

They're probably fucked with mets as it took so long to diagnose. No full body scan yet but it's not going to be good.

Fuck cancer.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same thing happened to my grandma with diabetes. They kept calling it hypochondria.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Which is insane, given that they could test her blood sugar for pennies in two seconds and still charge her dollars.

It's not like they need an MRI for that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

People just completely lost track of what "mildly infuriating" meant, maybe because there's no venue for r/IncandescentRage (who would want to mod that?).

It's like when the tiles in the floor are crooked, and it's making you angrier than it ought, lady, that's mildly infuriating. This? You need to sue this motherfucker, so the settlement pays for the hopeless surgery you're about to have, for fuck's sake. This is not mildly infuriating, you should be screaming and punching the walls.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Who else saw a space ship going into space??

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It looks more like an abdomen seen from above but whatever, that person's dying because of some doctors not doing anything

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Hate when that happens

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Is she preganent?

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