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People keep talking about "Federalizing the National Guard" and now you've got other States pledging their NG to Texas in defiance of the Supreme Court (see image).

So is this what CW2 looks like?

P.S. I'm a Brit

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I get that this isn't the point, but this is one of the least-cropped screenshots I've ever seen.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Could they not at least bunch up a bit so it's easier to build a wall around them?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Dumbasses once again saying, "Now is the time!" when they're clearly outnumbered and outgunned.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm an american and an idiot. I thought the National Guard was a Federal organization?
Regardless Governor Abbott is a hateful idiot, along with all of the other leaders in Texas. I just left Texas because I can't handle paying their salaries anymore, though I went to Louisiana where they are somehow more corrupt but also bigger idiots.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

It is. It got federalized during World War 1 and later the supreme Court basically ruled that the federal government wasn't allowed to do that but they weren't going to make the federal government give control back to the individual states anyway.

These days some states have state guards, but not all do. Of those that do, a significant amount are absolute jokes. It's fairly logical, of course. What state has needed an army in the last hundred years?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I thought the National Guard was a Federal organization

I read this shortly after posting and apparently NG is State managed unless it gets "federalized" which means the Federal Government takes over.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh, this'll be fun in the future when people try to whitewash it. We'll have another chance to follow up by asking, "a state's right to what, specifically?"

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ayo check out the Cornfederacy up there!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

IDK but I got shut down when I asked a few weeks ago.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised.

Like even if this thing with states acting up doesn't work out the people they are speaking too are definitely gonna still be riled up.

It seems obvious to me that they are probably planning something for the upcoming election since they would try and make sure that another "election steal" wouldn't happen again.

The only way that I see this not turning into a civil war is for government to somehow change the conversation drastically so that people aren't asking these questions.

Because if people begin asking these questions then people planning to do stuff are gonna be even more anxious and try and do the thing earlier.

I'm not sure how they would change the conversation though because all the republican population is going to just ignore them and still think we are heading towards a civil war making it just more likely to happen.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

“take over texas” as if the federal govt wasn’t already in control of the states. the states pay federal taxes, and they receive various federal benefits. texas isn’t some separate nation. it’s just one of the regular 50 states.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

All of the recent news surrounding Texas tells me we need to return to a more literal reading of the 10th Amendment. Bring back dual federalism.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Neither an American nor knowledgeable about constitutional and amendment law - would you mind elaborating please?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No, the civil war 2 looks like mass shootings and terrorists attacks. It started with the Oklahoma City Bombing. Liberals just refuse to acknowledge it's existence.

There's an argument to be made, though, tha the US has always been in a state of civil war. The Spartans would symbolically declare war on their slaves every year. That's kind of what slavery is: a constant war on a portion of the population. That's aside from the whole genocide of native folks. Since the 13th amendment didn't actually ban slavery, it never ended and if you look at standing rock, you know that whole native genocide thing never ended either.

Then when you contextualize all this with stuff like the Red Summer, you realize the recent violence is just the normal terrorism that white supremacists do every now and then to get control back. There probably won't be a war with two side, more just escalation violence from one side leading to the systematic murder a huge chunk of the population. The question is if it will be officially sanctioned like the Holocaust, or continue with the ad-hoc stochastic terrorism like the Rwandan genocide and the Serbian ethnic cleansing.

I expected more snipers, bombings, and attacks on infrastructure but if Trump wins it's definitely gas chambers.

Democrats are too afraid of "real war" to actually do something about this. If they did they might have to deal with the mess for real and open themselves up to political challengers from the left.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Tangentially related: https://mander.xyz/comment/7170064 that was after Jan. 6, and no we fucked around and didnt do any of this shit.

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