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As much fun as Sync is (and while I appreciate creators want to get paid)...
We're talking like $15-30(!). That's steep for a phone app. All this money stuff is pushing me back to Connect and Jerboa.
I wish Sync well. But I think I'm done with it already.
Ditto. I used to be a big Sync fan and used it for years as my primary mobile client for Reddit until 8-10 months or so ago when the dev did a 'fuck off and be unable to be contacted while something in the app breaks' break, which led to a bunch of ads appearing despite paying for no ads (and according to people on the subreddit at the time it was not a one time occurrence lol). I switched that day to Boost and didn't go back, but I was looking forward to trying out Sync for Lemmy when it released.
All the privacy and pricing concerns the last 24 hours have brought forth does not make me wanna even touch the app lol. I'm not paying that much money to fucking browse a glorified forum on my phone (specially when there's many other options).
They are okay and did the job until Sync came out. But are no way near as polished as Sync, which has years of updates and development.
While liftoff was the only third party I liked, I still think it was pretty unimpressive. It ran ok and that's about it. Features were lacking, aesthetics are bad, some glitches. For me the $20 or whatever it is for sync is worth it. I've used reddit since 2012 and browsed exclusively on my phone, swapping between relay and sync. If you average that cost out, even considering the $5 or whatever it was to get rid of ads on Reddit, it's basically nothing. The usage tracking is pretty shitty though.
EDIT: Ok I just saw the lifetime price for ultra, damn wtf lol. Again, averaging that cost over the ten years I've used the app means it's still a good deal but fuck upfront that's a lot lmao
Yes.
There are a lot of other apps for Lemmy. Some are not as polished as Sync -- but some are. And none (that I know of, on Android) are ad supported. Most are open source and 100% free.
This is a money grab. People were so excited for Sync that they don't want to call it a money grab. But that's what it is.
๐ it's a small dev, who got shut out of the previous customer base they'd built up, and now has to rebuild with fewer customers (and fewer potential customers at least short term).
If your job lost 70% of its customers, I bet you'd be begging your boss to raise prices to avoid a 70% pay cut.
It's not a money grab. It drives me crazy how much stuff people say is a "money grab", "theft", "a scam", "predatory", etc. Asking for money isn't malicious, neither is asking for more money than you personally think is reasonable/makes sense for your finances, and neither is offering a freemium ad supported app (which is better than nothing if you're not willing to pay with money).
Edit: and sorry if that sounds overly aggressive, but you definitely stretch a nerve/peeve as of recently. It just seems like everyone wants to be as dramatic as possible lately.
I see your point. And you don't deserve to be down voted, as it's reasonable.
I do think he's pricing it a bit steep for what the market can bear. Maybe not. I hope he gets as much as possible. I just know that I am priced out and will continue to use Connect.
I'm sorry to hear that you're priced out, and I think it's fine to give pricing feedback like that. I just am sick of everything being "outrage" where someone "dares" to try to make some money in exchange for their effort.
I both wish you a better financial situation and that a shorter term compromise arrives where you can afford the app, or that you continue to be satisfied with Connect. One of the beauties of the fediverse is that it's not an all or nothing thing, there are other clients and other ways to support folks and the community (even just being a friendly person, so props there).
I think that asking to be paid for your work is totally fine, but its a rather different story when you provide app for open source, nonprofit venture-free platform and start to inject ads and trackers into it. Its goes against the entire idea of free decentralised platform and makes it closer to profit-focused app like reddit/threads/etc imo
I agree. While $20 could still be seen as reasonable - even though making it one of the more expensive apps, thigh I'm willing to go for it if Sync continues development -, the asking price of $100 for the lifetime ultra is insane. I'm not aware of any other app that is this expensive. Of course, you could argue there's subscription apps out there that don't even have a lifetime model - e.g. Adobe, Microsoft Office -, But these provide considerably more value as well and are huge corporations.
My feeling is - and I don't have facts to prove it - that the developers of the large reddit apps (esp. Apollo) simply became used to the money making machine and want to squeeze as much as possible out of it.
While in the end it is entirely up to them, as there's open source and free alternatives out there, I'm not too fond of this behavior.
Greed.
I signed up for a year of Ultra yesterday, more as a show of support. I'm already regretting it after seeing how many tiers of pricing are now being shoved out.
I get the dev has to eat, but this is completely going against everything Lemmy is supposed to be about, while costing significantly more than its Reddit counterpart.
The price is very reasonable if you realize the economy of scale is not there yet. There is only about 100,000 monthly active Lemmy users right now. Even if 1% of those users bought the app at $20, the dev only net ~$14,000 for working on his app full time. The calculus will surely different if Lemmy have 10x more active users which will allow the dev to lower the app pricing while still sustaining himself.
Between the ads, pricing and tracking I'm just going to stick to Liftoff, it works really well.
AUD $33.99. No thanks.
Use Liftoff
...or Thunder, which is very similar to Liftoff. I use them pretty much interchangeably. Both are built with Flutter, have similar UX and performance and they work on both Android and iOS.
Simple solution. Get DNS66 from the F-droid site (not the Play Store version that wants a subscription). That takes care of the ads in all my apps. It inserts itself like a VPN, filtering all Internet traffic, blocking the ad servers.
AdGuard does the same. All I see is "sponsored content" and keep scrolling.
Used DNS adguar before , now I use proton VPN which has it built in with netshield
Inflation
I can confirm the price with a bit of variation 21.99โฌ for me.
Imho 15 eur is actually a fair price. In my country you can get a McDonald's meal for that price that satisfies me once whereas Sync satisfies me everyday ๐. And 25 still seems okay to me for a nice app like this. I can imagine a lot of effort is put in this app. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I think the developer should have just made the app ad-free, and charged for features people will want.
It's not a feature to remove ads. It's just normal. At least for many of us Linux users, we never see ads since we have so many ways to combat them.
But yes, if Lemmy starts to become very popular, it will pull in everyone who uses windows and has ads and shit in their face all day. They are used to it. Maybe they will pay.
So you would rather have micro transaction/dlc for various features... Instead of having a free path and a paid path...
Honestly all these hardcore, zealot Linux users all bent out of shape because god forbid they pay for someone's work while acting like they're on the high road, really makes Linux users look bad. I've come across way too many posts about yet another person triggered because OMG, it wasn't just free and the dev can't survive off good vibes and a 'donate' button no one would click.
For all the people mad sync isn't free, how many of the Foss projects have you donated too. A fiver one time a decade ago to one project means nothing. Going to guess I'll get more downvotes than people showing proof the donate, regularly.
I bought sync. Bought it here and bought it on Reddit many years ago. With the amount of time I used it, probably came out to less than a penny per hour of use.
Inflation, duh.
The price seems to vary quite a bit depending on the location. Probably something on google play's end?
WTF is this in CAD!?
I got it for 15. Is it expensive for ad removal? Yes. Is it too expensive? No, for me personally no. I wanted to support the dev and I did it. Also It's the only app I am going to use until Lemmy is no more.
I dropped sync after being a long time user because of this shortsighted decision. Another app is going to corner the market.