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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/chooks42 on 2024-09-12 21:11:01+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/Unprecedented_Change on 2024-09-12 19:09:05+00:00.


SS: article shows the similarities between our current weather patterns and previous El Niño with what occurred in the past. They’re saying these things could be related and theorize that the mega El Niño is was caused the greatest collapse in our history.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/Portalrules123 on 2024-09-12 18:51:28+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/Portalrules123 on 2024-09-12 18:43:31+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/Ok_Mechanic_6561 on 2024-09-12 17:29:39+00:00.


Bill McGuire, a professor emeritus of geophysical & climate hazards at University College London and author of “Hothouse Earth: An Inhabitant’s Guide.” Talks about how the rate of climate change and how fast it is accelerating “scares the hell out of me” as he says. He also says “If the fracturing of our once stable climate doesn’t terrify you, then you don’t fully understand it.” And to me, THAT IS the scariest part, no one understands it and many DO NOT WANT to understand it either. Many do not get how fast everything is going to collapse and things will not be the same as they once were. Bill also points out how many politicians and corporations are either “unable or unwilling” to make the proper changes needed to address our coming climate collapse.

We’ve already passed many climate tipping points, once those are passed, they cannot be reversed. Like I usually say, that we’ve f*cked around, and now we’re in the find out stage.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/pradeep23 on 2024-09-12 17:13:44+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/KlapauciusNeverRests on 2024-09-12 13:52:40+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/zutnn on 2024-09-12 07:01:45+00:00.


I am writing a living literature review on societal collapse: The idea behind this project is to make academic research on societal collapse more accessible to anyone who’s interested in the topic. If I come across new information that changes any of my previous conclusions, I’ll update the review. This also means that I greatly appreciate if you send papers which might be relevant to the posts you will read here.

Some examples of what I cover:

An overview of the different theories of societal collapse:

What factors allow a society to survive a crisis:

The role of famine in societal collapse:

The best places to weather global catastrophes:

Also happy to discuss here, if some of those topics interest you.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/phinbob on 2024-09-12 04:01:24+00:00.


It seems to me that attempts to use geo-engineering to limit dangerous warming are inevitable.

Why? 

First, we’re not going to reduce emissions enough.  Looking at the UN Emissions Gap Report for 2023, which states we need to cut emissions by 28% by 2030 (over what baseline, I'm unsure)  to stay below 2c and 42% to stay under 1.5c, the chances of global emissions voluntarily  falling by a third in the next six years are non-existent. To achieve this would require a global mobilization towards low carbon energy, a reduction in consumption by the developed countries, and a limit to the increase in consumption by developing countries. Absent of some clearly climate-driven natural catastrophe resulting in mass casualties in the United States, there is not the public will to do any of this. 

Second, there is a lot more money to be made in ambitious engineering projects than in emissions reduction. It’s the best of both worlds for the money-power. Traditional economic growth continues, more materials are extracted, more fuel is burnt, and, given the nature of the emergency, cost (and hence profit) becomes less of an issue. Huge amounts of newly created money gets transferred to the organizations building these vast engineering projects, and their consultants. It’s a win-win, except for the biosphere. Capitalism and human ingenuity save the day.

Huzzah.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/poop-machines on 2024-09-11 23:12:31+00:00.


Whe we talk about sea level rise, there seems to be this misconception that the sea will slowly move inland, eating the earth as it goes. This assumption also comes with the idea that we could just build walls to prevent this from happening, but it's sadly not the case.

As the ocean warms, it will evaporate much more. This will cause much more rain. Areas that were previously not flood plains will become flood plains. Other areas inland will face drought. It will cause extremes. Our weather has been perfectly in balance for the past few centuries, and we are finally beginning to realise that this is not necessarily the norm.

This is where inland water will come from as water levels rise. We will see massive rainstorms that flood land. Massive floods will increase in number rapidly as the water gets hotter, especially as there is less mixing as a result of currents bringing cool water up to the surface.

We are already seeing bizzare floods the size of countries, like in Pakistan. We are at the stage where the floods can evaporate away. Soon enough, the floods will be here to stay. And even then people won't recognise the predicament we are in, assuming it's temporary.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/uninhabited on 2024-09-12 11:21:10+00:00.

Original Title: Many dams, locks & weirs on the USA's 12,000 MILES of inland waterways are in bad shape. This YT channel is hosted by a Brit trained as a Architectural Engineer. Repairs on some are being carried out but I doubt there is enough funding in the end for everything.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/art-gal-London on 2024-09-12 09:57:42+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/wjfox2009 on 2024-09-12 09:51:37+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/Portalrules123 on 2024-09-12 00:35:36+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/Monsur_Ausuhnom on 2024-09-11 20:37:48+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/Portalrules123 on 2024-09-11 16:58:07+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/Ok_Mechanic_6561 on 2024-09-11 16:49:41+00:00.


In this small article summary and video they discuss wether or not people should go vegan in order to reduce the affects of climate change. As we know, the beef industry in the United States contributes to mass amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere which will lead to our inevitable collapse. These farming operations cut down mass amounts of trees which release more carbon into the atmosphere, generating more heat. Also, the types of animals we consume meat from such as cows and other cattle contribute up to 231 billion pounds of methane into the atmosphere each year (EPA, 2020). So it begs the question, should we as a society not only move away from beef, but from all other forms of meat to reduce our carbon footprint? Or since we’ve passed many climate tipping points to the point that things are irreversible now, does it really matter?

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/Portalrules123 on 2024-09-11 16:46:54+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/iforgottoshutthegate on 2024-09-11 12:44:18+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/SelectiveScribbler06 on 2024-09-10 23:05:20+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/Portalrules123 on 2024-09-10 20:50:11+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/Spector07 on 2024-09-10 06:17:02+00:00.


So, I've been thinking about it for some time. Going through this sub feels like I'm living in the opening act of a dystopian film, where society has already crumbled or is on the brink. The discussions here remind me of those slow, haunting cinematic intros like in Children of Men or Mad Max where the audience is dropped into a world that’s unrecognizable due to environmental devastation, economic chaos, and social breakdown. It’s almost as if we are collectively witnessing the foreshadowing of something irreversible. The news posts, research, and personal anecdotes shared here simply add layers of dread and realism, that to me sort of gives the sense that we're not just talking about collapse, but actually living through its opening stages (might be stating the obvious). What strikes me is how similar this feels to the kind of "before the fall" narrative we often see in films or books, where the story starts just before or as things start to go wrong in ways that can't be undone. Does anyone here feel like this community is more than just a discussion and is rather a documentation of the early stages of a societal collapse we’re already in?

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/SaxManSteve on 2024-09-10 19:18:05+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/Ok_Mechanic_6561 on 2024-09-10 13:30:19+00:00.


Concentrations of methane are rising at an unprecedented pace, jeopardising global climate goals, according to researchers. In the past five years, methane concentrations have surged faster than “in any period since record-keeping began”, the study said. Increases are being primarily driven by coal mining, oil and gas production and use, cattle and sheep ranching, and decomposing food and organic waste. In 2020, 41.8 million tonnes of methane entered the atmosphere, double the average amount added yearly in the 2010s, and over six times the average in the previous decade.

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