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Nobody linked to the video?
They seem to honestly believe that Musk will get human beings to Mars before the end of Trump's next term (under the assumption he has one).
I'm sorry. This won't happen in Trump's next term (assuming he has one). This won't happen in my lifetime. This won't happen in the lifetime of anybody currently over the age of 20.
MAYBE someone who was born today will see human beings land on Mars.
MAYBE the grandchildren of someone born today will see human beings build something semi-permanent on Mars.
Hear me out: They're planning to lose.
Promise ridiculous prosperity will happen when they win.
Lose.
No matter how successful the winner might eventually be, they can always point to the ridiculous prosperity that never happened, letting them rob their base of even enjoying the basic joy of any progress, keeping them mad, hateful, and controlled.
I mean the technical hurdles aren't insurmountable. But we lack the political will power to put resources needed into it.
It would take 60s moon landing level of commitment for 10-15 years to do any sooner.
It's a stupid idea, and a massive waste of resources that could be used here. There are multiple articles from real scientific sites, and YouTube videos from real scientists why it's a stupid idea.
I wasn't commenting on whether we "should" go, only that I felt we had the resources/ability to go...
How close would 44bn get us to Mars? I can't help think that would have been a better investment than twitter.
It's technically feasible in the bare minimum “Got there” sense. Bringing someone and getting them back. But we learned a lot by the moon exploration, and that is that we aren't ready for colonization. Living there, for a long time, let alone indefinitely, that is where the million details are still unresolved. I think that's the problem that is worth tackling. We already know we can live in space for a long time as long as there are continuous shipments of resources from Earth. We could just flood the logistics problem with money and get to mars next year if we wanted to. Other than the psychologically horrifyingly long distances involved, of course.
I'll say that Andy Weir got most of it right on how to do manned missions to Mars.
You build a huge space station, and then use that as the ship that goes to and from Mars.
Then the actual mission on the surface lasting a month or three before the astronauts pack up and head home.
The technical hurdles are insurmountable with any technology we have today. It is impossible, period, for humans to be landed on Mars in four years. It is impossible, period, for humans to have a semi-permanent settlement on Mars in the lifetime of anybody alive.
Going to the Moon, our closest neighbour, is child's play in comparison to going to Mars. And look how well getting humans back to the moon is going…
Can you expand on why you are reaching that conclusion?
You are mistakenly assuming the human being travelling to Mars will still be living.
Well getting humans onto Mars he could do.
But getting them back.........
They might not even make it there. The radiation doses that they would take on the journey are massive and likely to do heavy damage like cataracts and organ failure, especially if solar storms were to hit while they were outside the magnetosphere of either planet.
Where did I ever say he would get them there alive?
Let's fire coffins into the sky!
Your parents lied to you. You're not funny.
Nope. He won't even be able to get humans onto Mars. Not in four years. Not in 20 years.
I mean if you count bodies as humans you can just do a Mars rover style drop.
But I was of course not talking seriously because obviously there is 0 chance humans get to mars in the next decade.