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micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility

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Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!

"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Of course EU regulations, contrary to the US, limit pedal-assist bikes to a maximum continuous rated power of no more than 250 W and a speed to 25 km/h before cutting out power, leaving you to rely your legs for more speed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

its the same rules in Australia, but every bike seems to just have a 250W firmware limit that everyone just bypasses and then rides like a dick.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

How is that contrary to the US? The US has limits that are higher, not contrary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

250's pretty low espically for hill climbing

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

250W is the EU's legal limit for continuous power, measured by its heat output over a 30 minute test. So with better cooling you can legally build stronger motors.
My pedelec has a motor that can output 600W, yet is perfectly legal and EU certified.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is plenty, as long as the torque is sufficient. When mountainbiking I have never felt I would need more power, even on climbs where keeping the front wheel down is tricky. Of course you cannot sustain 25 km/h on steeper hills, but do you even need to?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can and need to with my American bike with a 45kmh limit and 250/750 peak. I used that bike for a daily 50km commute big hills all the way to the foothill. If it weren't for that setup I would have had to drive everyday.

Perhaps if Europe stopped getting in their own way over ebike limits more people there could abandon their cars, at least for some of the time?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Lol an American criticising Europe for car use...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's not low. It's more than the average human can deliver. And humans can hill climb easily. Double your power and no hill is too hard for you.

Just don't buy useless shit with a motor wheel. The motor should deliver power through your drivetrain.