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Jill Stein formally launches 2024 White House bid as Green party candidate
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 22 Nov 2023
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a vote for stein is a vote against the other candidates in the race.
So you're effectively going to vote for nobody and let everyone else decide the race?
i haven't decided who i'm going to vote for, but rgiht now i like jill stein and cornel west.
I felt this way when I was 18 also. I voted green and Bush II won. I live in California, so the electoral college essentially means I still voted for Gore. It really doesn't matter unless you live in a swing state.
I'm confused as to why you're a third party voter who is against ranked choice though, it's really the only chance we have at being able to meaningfully vote with our conscience.
he was installed by his daddy's friends. we could have all voted for jill stein in 2000 and it wouldn't have mattered.
in the system we have where we vote for people to take positions of power, i will vote for the person who i want to win that. if i have a chance to change this system, we will be eliminating positions of power. i don't care to change how our masters are chosen: man need not be ruled.
Then why vote at all? Why would you want Jill Stein holding power over you? Dismissing the only chance you have to actually vote for a person you want to win seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face. But it's becoming more and more apparent that you live to troll, so I guess that follows.
Don't bother this dude literally spends all day spamming political threads with garbage on Lemmy.
His username is literally commie. Don't have to look much further
if i have the opportunity to advocate for a differenty system of choosing masters or advocating for a system with no masters, every minute i spend advocating for the different system with masters is a minute i'm not working toward the system i actually want.
this is just a personal attack
It's not wrong though
this is just more name-calling.
it takes literally no effort and i like to do it. in an ideal world, i don't want jill stein or anyone else to hold power. so long as this system exists, i'm not sure i want anyone else, but i'm honestly torn between her and cornel west right now.
But you're against rank choice voting (wasn't sure, but the person above said you were)?
I'm against spending my time advocating for it because I don't think it's a solution to the problems. I'm no more opposed to it than the current system.
But it would let you get the person you actually want to win to have a chance while also preventing the worst party in your eyes from winning.
I would absolutely pick West first and Biden second, third, or whatever depending on the candidates if we had that system, but in the current system I'm not voting for anyone other than the 2 parties that actually have a chance of winning because the only way you'd get that 3rd party to win is if somehow you convinced the entire country to ditch the idea of voting Democrat all at the same time, and even then the 3rd party would be the new Democrats that absofuckinglutley will have corpo scum "invade" and corrupt. They will go where the power is, they have no party.
Ranked choice allows us to see the scum and choose a better candidate, hoping others see the same.
I would not pick biden at all.
Thats perfectly fine, it's your vote! If we ever get a vote for ranked choice just don't sit that one out! That will allow you to vote your conscience and still have a chance :)
you see how I would not like ranked choice, right? I would be compelled to vote for people who I think should not have the position.
Maybe if you don't understand how the US electoral system works...
this is just posturing and rhetoric.
It is math, actually.
no, it's not.