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'We can sue him': Chumbawamba on Winston Peters use of their song (www.rnz.co.nz)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Politicians being told not to use a song happens surprisingly often actually, I know Donald Trump was told not to use one, I believe it was "rocking in the free world". They've also told Nigel Farage off, apparently.

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[+] [email protected] -17 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Why would anyone need to ask for permission? These musicians sold off their rights long ago

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Really wondering why you would think that.

Chumbawamba have a track record of being quite involved in rights issues, like the time they licensed a song to GM and used the money to campaign against GM.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

This article only mentions them personally selling their music for individual advertising campaigns. It says nothing about the rights to play it at political rallies. As I can find it on Spotify and it plays on radio stations, it's likely they outsourced at least part of the rights management.

Also, I was reacting to the broader statement about musicians vs 'political rally use'

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Using a rights management agency isn't the same as selling off/renouncing your rights to a property in perpetuity.

Kind of like having a rental agent doesn't mean you sold them the house.

I'm sure every use request isn't run past them personally but they're political activists so there's no way they would have a blanket "assume yes" policy on licensing for use by political entities.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I can find no record that someone sold the rights to ISWC T-011.513.266-5 for the purpose of this use. Where are you getting your opinion?

Note I’m not litigating the copyright system, just your comment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I love how they responded to you with a strawman argument.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago

I don't know about those codes. Is that the one for Rocking in the Free World? It just seems very unlikely to me that Neil Young would personally oversee every single use of this song