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I know it's still in development, but check out Revolt . It's basically Discord, but open source.
i looked into revolt and pretty concerned with these two stances of the project
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like, to me it seems they want to get communities invested and then later monetize in ways those communities don't yet know about?? idk that sounds extremely sus. especially when competing instances will fight against network effects with no federation.
1st. implementing activitypub or any other federation protocol is quite a task. also in my opinion it does not need to be federated. there are basically no benefits, except convenience for the users.
2nd. it's open source. if you don't like the way it's monetized, fork it and make your own. it' not foss.
that's all very fair, i guess i was just hoping federation was at least on a long term roadmap
I can sort of see why a chat client wouldn't have a use for activitypub/federation, with the possible exception of identity sharing once that starts to take off.
yeah, i agree that i don't think federation of something like this would be through ActivityPub (matrix has its own). i guess it just feels unfortunate that if users want to access communities across multiple instances, users will have to have separate logins and identities for each one.
Yeah, identity is a real problem, but someone posted a proposal to solve for that that looks perfect for this sort of thing. Wish I remembered what it was called, but basically each account could attest for the others via export of encryption keys/signatures so while you has multiple 'accounts' there was only one identity which was pointed to in the signature blob.
The tricky part would be getting everyone (matrix, lemmy/kbin/mbin, pixel fed, and masto) to conform to a single identity standard. If one existed, I could see them implementing it, but we're not there yet.
hmm that sounds really interesting! if you end up remembering it and also remember to respond i'd love to know lol. yeah i hope if something good enough comes along two platforms will implement and then others will just follow suit.
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