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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Remember when PC gaming used to be hands down better than console?

Anyone who still believes that is stuck in the past.

PC certainly has its benefits and is my platform of choice, but if somebody was getting into gaming or just casually interested then a PS5 is a much better choice these days.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But aren’t the GPUs used by AI different than the GPUs used by gamers? 8GB of RAM isn’t enough to run even the smaller LLMs, you need specialized GPUs with 80+GB like A100s and H100s.

The top-tier consumer models like the 3090 and 4090 have 32GB, with them you can train and run smaller LLMs locally. But there still isn’t much demand to do that because you can rent GPUs on the cloud for cheap; enough that the point where renting exceeds the cost of buying is very far off. For consumers it’s still too expensive to fine-tune your own model, and startups and small businesses have enough money to rent the more expensive, specialized GPUs.

Right now GPU prices aren’t extremely low, but you can actually but them from retailers at market price. That wasn’t the case when crypto-mining was popular

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They're not that different, really. CUDA processing cores are the most used in AI training, and those are the main processors used in both Nvidia's consumer desktop cards and machine learning enterprise cards. As "AI" is on the rise, more and more of the supply of CUDA processors and VRAM chips will be diverted to enterprise solutions that will fetch a higher price from deals with corporations. Meaning there will be less materials available for the consumer-level GPU supply, which will drive prices up for normal consumers. NVIDIA has been banking on this for a long time; that's why they don't care about overpricing the consumer market and have been trying to push people towards cloud-based GeForce Now subscription models where you don't even own the hardware and just basically rent the processing power to play games.

Also just to be anal, the 3090 and 4090 have 24Gb of vram, not 32Gb. And unlike gaming nowadays you can distribute the workload to multiple GPU's in one system, or over a network of machines.