Let’s say they do kill whales. I’m guessing these people still want renewable energy right? You can’t eat your cake and have it too. What’s the alternative? “Lend based wind farms kill birds” “nuclear power plants are unsafe and still generate dangerous waste” fuck me, I’ve heard so many excuses over the years, there are downsides to all options, but we need to do something, so stop whining!
this post was submitted on 25 Feb 2024
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It's not even a trade-off though. Yes, wind farms kill birds, but fossil fuel plants kill MORE birds. Yes, wind farms may hurt whales, but oil drilling hurts MORE whales.
Of course stuff is bad if you don't look at the downsides of the alternatives.
Indeed. They're all still better than fossil fuels. That should be the focus.
I find it both very sad, and hilarious that many people who WANT an end to the fossil fuel lobby get suckered in to to the bullshit that that the same investment group throw out against wind farms.
I’m totally for wind farms BTW.
I just got horribly downvoted for summarising a YouTube video but here it is again for the people that just want an overview. Tell me, if you watch it, how accurate is it?:
In the YouTube video "'Thrown to the wind' -- are wind farms really killing whales?", the speaker examines the claims that wind farms are causing an increase in whale deaths off the eastern coast of America. Despite government statements denying a proven connection between wind farms and whale deaths, some argue that surveys used for wind farm development and pile driving cause excessive noise that harms whales. However, the speaker challenges these claims, pointing out that shipping boats, cruise liners, warships, and seismic surveys during oil exploration produce even louder noises. The video also investigates the correlation between wind farm traffic and whale deaths in the New England area and concludes that there is no proven link between wind farm activity and whale deaths, as whale deaths are rising globally and there is no increase in whale deaths in areas with more wind farms. The speaker also criticizes those opposing renewable energy based on unsubstantiated claims about wind farms harming whales, urging viewers to support a charity called Health in Harmony instead
Big ships are bad for whales, we use more and more big ships... Fucking windfarms man!
Seems pretty spot on to me. You left out the bit about the video being funny. 8 out of 10 possums.
Every time I see a summarising tool, I give it a go.
But your description has intrigued me so I will give it a watch.
25 mins, OK. Here we gooo.
Once they start talking about Health in Harmony at the end, the video is done. It felt like that appeal went for a minute, maybe two.
The summary is quite general and misses the point of the video (the tearing apart of an opposing argument). Like you said, it's OK though.
I just checked the 5 minute summaries and they are a bit clearer.
https://www.summarize.tech/www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KfoH32p3GY
Edit: Sponsorblock skipped the last piece.
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It's so weird that the crossposted post is being downvoted. I wonder why.
Maybe you need a post submission? Because the title is generalised, it could mean the video is supporting either side of the argument and the people downvoting don't like the side they think the video is about?
I just got smashed 30 downvotes for answering someone's question in another thread with the same tool that I used in this thread. Last time I try to help someone. This place can be quite fucked up. Modern downvoting is a scourge.
Yeah I figured this is the issue but I couldn't be bothered writing any body text. And YouTuber's have a habit of using the first sentence or paragraph of the video description for their appeals which of course gets picked up as the summary by social media sites. Argh!