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I know free vpns usually are not good, but right now I am not in a position to pay for a vpn. I found Privado VPN and it doesn't keep logs and is based in Switzerland. It has a data limit for free users, but do you think its safe for torrenting?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

Being free always raises the question of what they are getting out of you using it. I wouldn't be entirely comfortable using it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Hi there, as someone who is writing his master thesis on the privacy of fee vpns. I cannot recommend a single one. By that I mean the ones that advertise themselves as being a mainly free vpn. I have not had a look at privado in specific, but would highly recommend sticking to Proton. Their vpn is also fairly priced if you ask me.

Addtionally, if you want to quickly check out an app to see if they use excessive amounts of permissions(based on manifest file), and the implemented trackers they have you can use Exodus Privacy Tool; https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/io.privado.android/latest/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, proton has an OK free tier.

Tho, you might know more about the topic, you know anything about riseup VPN and/or calyx VPN?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Have sadly not checked these out in detail, however they do seem more promosing that the general free vpn one find by looking up "free vpn" on Google Play Store. Neither of them use excessive amounts of permissions, and the permssions they do ask for seem to fair to ask for. Neither of them have trackers implemented too which is nice. I would trust these more than other 'completelty free VPNs' atleast. However I'm only judging of first impressions and a quick look at their permissions. I'm assuming they lack features, speed etc..

If you want trust and transparency then options like Mullvad, Proton and IVPN would be my suggestions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Look into fdroid vpns, there are some free ones too.

Personally I like mullvad

Shit

I have about 80 days left. Gotta pay up

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

And yes. Calyx and riseup and super slow and suck on all fronts

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But no p2p on free. Honestly, OP, for this one you may just have to drop some cash on a reputable VPN

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just Proton VPN isn't expensive at all

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

$10/month, right? Not terrible but expensive nonetheless

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I looked it up, it's 10 euro a month.

120 a year

200 Australian.

Expensive but cheap if tormenting

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

https://protonvpn.com/plans

If you want just the vpn without any of the very common discounts its 5€ for 2 years plan

Its the cheapest good torrenting option with good bandwidth and great privacy.

Definitely 100 times cheaper than torrenting without vpn and getting caught.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just get mullvad then. It’s 5€, every month, no special offers, just 5 bucks. Also it’s one of the best if not the best vpn provider you can get.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They don't have port forwarding wich is a problem for torrenting.

Proton is one of the best, Mullvad is behind only because of the port forwarding. But both are above everything else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Damn I didn’t know they discontinued port forwarding support. Personally I moved to Premiumize for torrenting or generally pirating but still that’s a bummer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

And yeah its a bummer, before that I've given Mullvad and proton as great options, but currently i can only advertise for Proton in good faith. Its a little more expensive (unless you have a business plan regardless...) but its great for everything else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Oeck vpn is a better deal than that if you need port forwading. At full price they are expensive but there is a 50% off deal on whirlpool.net.au at the moment. https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/9n1jvqwk US$83 per year, works out to about AU$125 per year.

Oeck vpn allows each user to forward 10 ports and the port number stays the same even if the vpn is reset.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

No 5€ for the 2 years plan

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Can't talk for the free tier, but my Usenet account comes bundled with a paid Privado account, and that's working ok so far. The connections have been reliable, fast, and low latency.

My main issue has been that it doesn't support port forwarding. Also, some GeoIP services locate many of their servers in the Netherlands, instead of where Privado says they are. Idk who's right, but it's definitely a problem if you want to pick a specific location.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

UsenetServer, and I used this discount link.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It appears to have a 10 GB limit per month, which is so low that it would essentially be useless for most common torrenting purposes I can think of.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ebooks, audiobooks, music, could all work in that realm

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

How often would you be forced into torrenting those mediums and how great is the risk? E-books do not need to be torrented as there are plenty of alternative ways to access them (including legal methods such as libraries). Audiobooks potentially do, but AFAIK are not prosecuted to the same extent as films and TV or video games. It can definitely be convenient to torrent music and it is a riskier medium than e-books or audiobooks, but similar to e-books there are plenty of alternatives to torrenting. I just don't see why you would bother signing up for a free VPN if that's the stuff you're after.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

you could look into other ways of pirating, that don't necessarily require a vpn, instead. in may country it's mainly problematic to use torrents, because you automatically are sharing stuff as well. IRC is something that I never had a problem with, for example. you're only downloading and it doesn't cost you anything. there are xdcc search engines out there. The downsides are that it's a bit nerdy (is it a downside. though?) and you'll mostly find current mainstream content.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

With no cash your only way to torrent for free safely is i2p and it’s slower speeds