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Never be afraid of using the DEFED hammer on those that deserve it. You guys are doing a Fantastic job of keeping this HIVE balanced and free of garbage extremist instances like shit.just.works, Lemmygrad and The general obnixiousness of hexbears.
Thank you for you for giving us such a nice community. Keep up the good work.
I want to emphasize the “on those that deserve it” bit. That’s the part angry commenters will misinterpret or pretend to forget.
Anyway…
I have an account on kbin. It can be interesting to compare a thread when viewed here vs. being viewed there.
Usually, a thread viewed on kbin has more comments - but many of them are crude, stupid, and antagonistic. The same thread viewed on Beehaw has a much more readable comment section, because of thoughtful defederating.
Ideally, we wouldn’t have to defederate from anyone, but I don’t think we’re losing anything of value.
Somebody was ignorantly making fun of Beehaw recently. I responded that I only want civil, mature conversations instead of arguments with trolls. I like the idea of a well-moderated instance that has a general guideline of “be(e) nice”. I want mods to have the flexibility to do their jobs effectively.
“Value” - i feel you’ve hit the point perfectly.
People are possibly perceiving a value loss in defederation, when in reality, letting in (on average) low value comments/content/whatever dilutes the instance’s value.
Oh has sh.itjust.works started exibiting an extremist bias as a collective? Last time I was paying attention to them they were the sort of misguided centrist types whose instance was vulnerable to getting overrun with extremists. Sad to hear it happened, but not really all that surprised
Forums that fashion themselves as centrist are always prime targets for ring wing asshats, sadly.
People gotta learn every internet community that's lasted long term has had strong moderation policies for a reason
Exactly. Don’t let people weaponize free speech against you!
It's not that these communities deserve it. It's that the moderation tools tools across instances isn't built out enough for it to be all done within lemmy
Update: The survey provides this answer.
~~What's wrong with sh.itjust.works? Good faith question, genuinely curious. I don't know much about the instance and in taking a quick peek, I see a lot of poking the hexbear but nothing else immediately sticks out.~~
~~Lemmygrad and hexbear I'm familiar with why they're problematic.~~
this is not a democracy
Seriously, huge applause for this. Beehaw is already operating 10x more intelligently than most forums I frequent. Y’all clearly know how to deal with bad actors
Thanks for not using google.
FYI to whoever flagged me forgetting to uncheck required for the last box: i fixed that, thank you for flagging it
Thanks for putting this together and taking the time and energy to get our feedback.
Wherever I find myself questioning the Beehaw restrictions, I browse All on lemmy.world. I can read All here with no real regrets. Anywhere else... Ehhhhhh
When I browse All on Beehaw I see a bunch of topics that I'm not even remotely interested in. I'm sure most of it is interesting to the members of those communities, but it's definitely not how I use Lemmy.
When I go to my "Subscribed" tab on lemmy.world, it's full of great content that isn't available on Beehaw.
pleased to report we crossed the 200 response threshold earlier; i suspect we'll have a pretty good sample size relative to the overall community when all is said and done
Thanks for all the great work you guys are doing with this instance. This place feels nicer than Reddit.
Submitted. I think this is a great way to give feedback and ideas.
I want to see the results... not because of democracy, but because of curiosity about what others think.
If you want to prevent a scenario of "51% vs 49%" discussions, may I suggest publishing the results with rounded numbers, like "more than 20% think that [whatever]". It would be informative enough as far as I'm concerned.
If you want to prevent a scenario of “51% vs 49%” discussions, may I suggest publishing the results with rounded numbers, like “more than 20% think that [whatever]”.
i think you're unintentionally making a good case for why releasing results isn't useful here in any form: if we have to take active steps to distort or fudge how the data is presented to prevent sectarianism or people feeling like they're in a vast minority then it's just easier (and more productive) for everyone if the data is kept with us.
Hm, maybe.
Personally, I wouldn't mind finding out my views were "less than 10%" as long as it's not a popularity contest/vote, it would actually interest me to find out why others might have a different opinion. My only concern would be data that could be construed as a divisive vote, instead of as a feeling to discuss.
On the other hand, I guess these topics have already been discussed, so maybe it would be redundant.
Thanks for doing this. Love this community.
Done!
I respect your policy above but you may run into declining response rate in the long term without some kind of feedback, as there will be a 'what is the point' feeling. I may be wrong of course (and hope I am!), just something I've seen at work. I completely get your reasoning though.
I did my part, and I like this kind of feedback. Keep doing a good job!
Answered! Thanks for taking the time to listen to our feedback!
The following question:
In your opinion, has Beehaw gotten less enjoyable to use since you joined?
Has some answers that confuse me. The options:
No, the site has not gotten less enjoyable
Have not observed a difference
Sound identical to me. I could see that the former implies its equal or better than before, while the latter states its just equal. But there is another option: "Actually, the site has gotten more enjoyable", which clearly states its better than before.
If an option states no change, and another states improvement, I see no reason why there is an option which implies both.
If an option states no change, and another states improvement, I see no reason why there is an option which implies both.
some people don't have the frame of reference, don't have the confidence, or simply have not paid sufficient attention to state one way or the other whether anything has changed--which is distinct from actually being able to say the site hasn't gotten less enjoyable. both options have been used fairly consistently to mean these, based off of the explanations box.
Haven’t been around as much since school started back, but I filled the survey out regardless.
Answered!
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Did my part! Thanks mods!
Done!
